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Britain C. Griffin, Joel Hinton, & Cole Crutchfield
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Transcript
[INTRO]
[BeardXBrain Halloween Special Music – Produced by: JDAUNKNOWN] 00:00:00
I am the writing on the wall, the whisper in the classroom! Without these things, I am nothing. So now, I must shed innocent blood. COME WITH ME!
[Woman Screams] 00:00:16
Joel 00:00:40
You’re gold, Pony boy!
Britain 00:00:43
And, Welcome to beard and brain podcast where the beard gets weird. We interview interesting people about interesting things. I am your co-host Britain C. Griffin, and as always joining me is my hetero life mate, Joel Hinton. Today, we have a special guest Cole Crutchfield with us as we dive deep into Samhain, the festival that later became Halloween.
Cole 00:01:11
What’s up guys? How you doing?
Britain 00:01:13
What’s up, Joel? What’s up, Cole?
Cole 00:00:16
What’s up?
Joel 00:00:17
What’s up fam’?
Britain 00:01:18
All right, folks. Turn on the lights, check under your beds, and lock the doors. It’s about to get spooky on beard and brain… So we can just go in and dive in.
Joel 00:01:26
You give me a hard on.
Britain 00:01:28
Oh, Ow.
Britain 00:01:31
So, um, everybody, this is a, uh, I guess festive-ish style podcast we’re going to throw here. We’re going to go into, uh, the origins of Halloween, which is called Samhain, (Sah-win) spelled S. A. M. H. A. I. N. I don’t know how you get “Sah-win” from that. Um, but it does come from old Irish language and it means summer’s end. So, uh, celebrated by ancient Celts throughout Europe, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland. It, um, it basically marks the last day of summer or the first day of winter. And, uh, it’s also the, uh, end of the harvest season and serves as a transitional period from the years lighter and darker halves. So you, you kind of have, um, basically like a breakdown or a celebration in like the solstice.
Joel 00:02:28
Okay, cool.
Britain 00:02:30
So again, it’s, uh, it’s pronounced “Sah-Win”. I don’t know how they get that from…
Cole 00:02:36
Yeah, I thought… it looks like “Sam-Hien” or something.
Britain 00:02:38
Yeah, “Saam-Hien” or something…
Cole 00:02:39
Or “Sam-Hayne”
Britain 00:02:39
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it’s actually pronounced “Saw-Win”. Um, but…
Joel 00:02:46
So it’s “Sah-WIN”?
Britain 00:02:47
Yeah, “Sah-Win”.
Joel 00:02:50
Gotcha! All right.
Britain 00:02:54
Alright, let’s see…
Joel 00:02:55
Had to get the phonetics down before I could continue my bad.
Britain 00:02:58
Um, I’m not gonna lie. I’ve actually had to look up a few of this stuff with the, um, pronunciations is to try to get close because with this being an old Irish and now it’s of course going to be kind of hard.
Joel 00:03:11
Yeah.
Britain 00:03:12
Um, but Samhain is held during a time where winter preparations are made crops are being harvested, you know, animals rounded up for sacrifice or, you know, to be housed for the winter, um, for breeding for next year. Um, you know, so on and so forth also a time, uh, where matters such as, you know, inaugurations of new Kings, uh, debts are to be repaid, you know, kind of like a, almost a retro grade, if you will, like a revisit back to, you know, earlier things that took place the year, you know, tie on loose ends, um,
Cole 00:03:48
Where they would bag up the lease in their yard.
Britain 00:03:50
Yeah. [Laughter] they even say that like trials for like, uh, like horrid crimes would take place. So somebody did some like crazy horrendous shit during the summer, or like early in the spring or something like typically during the, you know, into the year is when they would, they would do that. I guess that’s where a lot of the, um, you know, kind of death then.
Cole 00:04:14
So they just like, let them go. We know, we know you just killed someone, but we’ll let you have a good summer.
Britain 00:04:19
[Laughter] pretty much kind of like sit and ride for a while. Like the trials.
Joel 00:04:24
It seems like most of the cultures though, in like Western Europe and the, you know, Western civilization, like South America, Mexico, and I think even Indians and had some form of it, but they all seem to have some type of celebration. It seems around like the harvest moon. Um, you know, like the best example I can think of right now is Dia de Los Muertos on November 4th.
Britain 00:04:51
Yeah. Was that the day of the dead, right?
Joel 00:04:55
Yeah.
Britain 00:04:56
Yeah, That’s um, definitely got a lot of, and, and you’ll see, you know, later on, you’ll be able to pick that out to where it’s almost like Halloween ended up being just like a little piece of that. And then a little piece of this tradition, a little piece of that religion and stuff like that. Uh, it’s definitely, um, a mixed bag if you will.
Cole 00:05:16
So was it out there like a specific religion or is it just like an Irish culture thing? Like as a whole?
Britain 00:05:23
Let’s see. Um, I think it, I think it is early on like Celtic, um, Ireland, because they say that Rome, which I’ll get into in a minute, like, uh, the Romans early on when they invaded England and in Europe and all that, that’s when they came in and kind of the early mixing started.
Cole 00:05:43
Okay.
Britain 00:05:43
Yeah. So, basically as time grew on, it was easier and easier for Christianity. So basically swallow those traditions of Solomon and it, and it proved to be more effective rather than, you know, trying to stamp it out of history. You know, they were able to convert followers that way. And that’s basically where that started up to, uh, you know, where they started the mix and stuff, but it started out as an ancient Celtic or pagan festival. So, you know, if you had to link it to a religion, I guess the, you know, the pagans are ancient Celts.
Cole 00:06:12
Okay. Interesting.
Britain 00:06:13
Um, but as I mentioned earlier, uh, the year was split into two halves, a lighter and a darker half. And also, um, that, that, uh, Sam had Sam, Samwen or whatever Samhain, excuse me. It, it marked the Celtic New Year. So it was like the last kind of like Christmas towards the end of the, uh, the year and, uh, our actual new year’s Eve and new year’s day, or like the last two saw when was the last, you know, who Rob before the Celtic new year. So they actually celebrated the change in seasons four times a year, similar to what we do.
Britain 00:06:55
Um, the first one is called “Imbolk”, and it’s halfway between the winter solstice and spring Equinox. That’s Imbolk, I. M. B. O. L. K.
Britain 00:07:08
Uh, the second one is “Beltane” halfway between the spring Equinox and summer solstice. That’s B. E. L. T. A. N. E.
Britain 00:07:21
And then you’ve got a “Lughnasadh”, halfway between the summer solstice and fall Equinox. That’s L. U. G. H. N. A. S. A. D. H.
Britain 00:07:34
And then last but not least our topic today, Samwin, Sahwin, Samhain…
Cole 00:07:45
Samhain.
Britain 00:07:46
However many different…. names. It’s probably been called that one is halfway between the fall Equinox and winter solstice.
Britain 00:07:54
So you’ve got all four of those, basically they kind of would celebrate each time, you know, you would go into a new season and we kind of do that too here in America. [Yeah] We kind of celebrate that different holidays. I’ll Mark that, but… [Yeah] So basically you got the two halves that are split down the middle and then the four quarters. I mean, Imbolk, Beltane, Lughnasadh, and Samhain.
Cole 00:08:22
Interesting.
Joel 00:08:23
Okay.
Britain 00:08:27
So I guess
Joel 00:08:29
So this all stems from a Celtic thing.
Britain 00:08:32
Yeah, yeah. Celtic and pagan Europe, uh, specifically like Scotland or Ireland mainly and including wales and shit like that. So a lot of my bloodline is from Wales’s descent and also Scandinavian…
Joel 00:08:51
Same, most of minor Irish, German, and Norwegian.
Britain 00:09:00
Well, you started to get a lot of those changes. I was bringing up when, uh, the Romans invade. So the Romans invaded somewhere around 43 to 87 and they invited on it as a rule of Emperor Claudius and they too held autumn festivals. So, you know, it’s naturally that over time that they eventually took parts of both harvest festivals and kind of blended them piece by piece. So that is basically when you start to get the blend of the pagan festivals with, you know, more Christian/Catholic-ish kind of deals here. Um [gotcha], the, the Romans specifically though their harvest festival was centered around a fruit goddess. They honored the fruit goddess Pomona… even after, uh, yeah. Even after Catholicism took over, Pomona was still honored to remain a staple in the festivals. Um, so Pomona was like a really big part of the, uh, the Roman harvest festivals and pretty much stayed even if inadvertently a part of their, you know, traditions.
Cole 00:10:10
So where did like Pomona fall in with like the Christian mythology? Like, was that part of it or like, just like a separate thing?
Britain 00:10:18
No, this was early on, I would say, uh, not even really like, like a major figure, but early enough to where, I mean, I would say Pomona herself fell out of, and that’s why I say inadvertently, I would think Pomona herself fell out of popularity in the tradition, but the things that stayed was like, um, the, her main fruit being, or the most important fruit being the Apple. So like some of the traditions being like bobbing for apples or something, for example,[okay] those little parlor games and stuff like that ended up staying. I don’t really think it was like, like, she was definitely honored for like that time of year, maybe as a God that you would like say a prayer or something for as you’re like harvesting your crop or something. But I don’t think it was something as deeply rooted as like, you know, land in the Bible or something.
Cole 00:11:10
Yeah. That’s interesting. Cause a lot of like Christianity and Judaism…
Britain 00:11:15
That didn’t come until a little bit later, I think.
Cole 00:11:17
Okay. This is like bef, like Pre-Christianity, then this is like ancient Roman. Okay.
Britain 00:11:22
I even read, from what, sss, I’ve interpreted, that Pope Boniface the fourth was the one that wanted to Christianize everything and I think that’s around the seventh century. Okay. So where are we at? Like 609 A.D. So, um, in an effort to steal the day away from the Pagan, he declared November 1st, all saints day. And I think it, that was official May 13th, 609 A.D. And so Pope Boniface wanted to be the guy who Christianized the festival, you know, making it more, less pagan ish and more of kind of his thing. So after the Romans invaded, eh, you know, hundreds of years later on the intermingling of the two, you have this, you know, bony face dude, come in. I don’t know if that’s really how you pronounce it, but that’s an, I’m calling him the only face I heard it in the bony face.
Cole 00:12:15
Yeah. That’s what I heard in that video.
Britain 00:12:18
Hilarious.
Cole 00:12:19
I don’t think… Yeah. It’s supposed to be pronounced though or something.
Britain 00:12:22
Yeah Pope Boney Face.
Cole 00:12:23
He looked like he had a bony face to.
Britain 00:12:24
Yeah punch it, punch him in the face.
Britain 00:12:30
Um, so at something interesting of note, another name for a Saint is “Hallowed”. That’s pretty bad ass isn’t it?
Cole 00:12:37
Hmm.
Joel 00:12:39
That is pretty cool.
Britain 00:12:40
Hallowed…. THE HALLOWED. [Laughter]
Joel 00:12:44
It makes so much like the iron maiden song makes so much more sense now.
Britain 00:12:48
Really? Which…
Joel 00:12:50
Hallowed be thy name.
Britain 00:12:51
Yeah… Yeah. Hallowed be thy name.
Joel 00:12:59
I never thought that’d be like a reference to the whole, you know, prayer and all that shit.
Britain 00:13:05
Yeah. November 1st I think became “All Saints Day” or “All Hallowed, All Hallowed Day” and, respectively, creating October 31st “All Saints Day Eve” or “All Hallowed Day Eve” or “All Hallows day Eve”. That’s where the Halloween kind of started to blend in, you know, how we always make shit easier every year, I guess.
Cole 00:13:27
Yeah.
Joel 00:13:28
Yeah.
Britain 00:13:29
Blend words together, stuff like that. But that’s basically what I know as far as, you know, my brief education on, you know, what the original Samhain stood for as far as the split of the year. And there are different, you know, being in the fourth, of their festivals, they celebrate each year and it being one of the most important ones because it brings in the Celtic new year, you know, and then how also the Romans, when they invaded Britain and England and Europe and all that or whatever. Um, at the time Europe under Emperor Claudius, that’s when the blending of all that started, you know, they, they started to imprint, you know, different traditions with Pomona and the apples and all the different fruits.
Joel 00:14:15
That’s pretty cool.
Cole 00:14:15
Interesting.
Britain 00:14:16
Yeah.
Cole 00:14:17
I saw that. Um, the reason that like the spookiness comes in is because they believe that during that time, like the, a veil between like the, uh, our dimension and the spirit dimension is like a thinned.
Britain 00:14:30
Yeah!
Cole 00:14:31
So like more spirits can come in and like, they, they thought that that’s when like, uh, you know, their ancestors and relatives kind of came up from the grave. So like the way that, the reason that like kids go like, you know, house to house, asking for candy, knocking on doors, because, you know, families would set out, uh, stuff from their harvest for their ancestors who, you know, had come back from the dead, I guess, as a spirit form during this time when the veil was thinned. And, uh, I think like kids or people would go door to door, like knocking and like kind of like taking the, uh, the treats from people’s doors or something like something in the vein of that.
Britain 00:15:10
Yes, absolutely. Uh, the spirit and the human realm, uh, believed, um, I guess the barrier between the two to be the most thinnest
Cole 00:15:19
Yeah. So I wonder like what originated that, like, did someone just pull that out of their ass or do they like that people start noticing like weird shit going on, you know?
Britain 00:15:29
Yeah…. Basically they believed it to be a liminal time. As what it said basically means that the barrier between the human and spirit realm or at its thinnest, um, the living and day co-mingle and return home, if you will. So since the veil is so thin, it allows the spirits to cross, over in our room. Uh, the spirits were called the “AOS SI’”. It’s spelled like somewhere like A. O. I. S. S. I., but it’s pronounced “EEH-SHEE”. Uh, they were deemed the mischievous and dangerous like spirits or whatever. Um, some actually believed that the she or the spirits that they would entertain, or like try to like give praise or worship to were, you know, tormented and leftover ancient gods from religions that people didn’t worship anymore.
[Sci-Fi Sounds – Theremin]
Cole 00:16:24
Okay.
Britain 00:16:25
Isn’t that wild?
Joel 00:16:26
That is pretty wild!
Cole 00:16:27
That is interesting, yeah.
Britain 00:16:28
Yeah. Yeah dude it’s spooky.
Britain 00:16:32
It was also, um, believed that the spirits, you know, the “AOS SI’” had to be satisfied for the survival of crops and livestock, you know, from, through the winter and everything. So they really had a heavy believing that, you know, if, if they didn’t do this, that, you know, some bad shit was going to happen, their crops wouldn’t survivor a cattle slain or something like that. So the beginning of it…
[Inaudible] 00:16:52
Britain 00:16:54
Sorry?
Joel 00:16:57
Did they sacrifice children?
Britain 00:17:00
Man Um….
Britain 00:17:04
Put a pin in that… No put a pin in that honestly, because I have a bit on that. If we have time, I do have a bit on that.
Joel 00:17:11
Alright.
Britain 00:17:13
For real, put a pen in that. That’s wild that you bring that up. I saved like the sinister ship for last and try to just get to like the most basic, you know, you know what you’re going to see a scratching the surface. Um, but the beginning of the ceremony would be like, um, a candle like lit ceremony or a little vigil or something with everybody would light up the candles and, you know, say a prayer or some kind of offering. Um, they would also put out fruits and drinks outside and that’s when the bonfires, really started to become part of the tradition. And it’s really a huge part of the tradition. And you’re going to see it like plastered. If you start to dig into saw one and the additions of Halloween, like bonfires, are a focal point. It’s where people meet. It’s also brought in a lot of, um, staples to Halloween like bats, why bats are associated with Halloween because when you have a big bonfire, you’re lighting up what, outside, the dark, you’re exposing the nocturnal creatures that normally you don’t see. So bats would really be associated with that time of year and the bonfires, um, but, um.
Cole 00:18:21
They were the annoying cousin that brought in the acoustic liar, started playing songs for everyone.
Britain 00:18:28
Yeah. Dude, we all know what he’s playing. He’s playing wonder wall.
Cole 00:18:33
Exactly.
Britain 00:18:34
The dude bonfires, being, bonfires, being a huge part of it..
[Inaudible]
Britain 00:18:40
Uh, what’s that?
Joel 00:18:44
You don’t know how to play Wonderwall. Can you really play guitar?
Cole 00:18:48
No.
Britain 00:18:49
No
Cole 0018:51
Unless you wonder wall.
Britain 00:18:53
And even then you still know how to play it.
Cole 00:18:57
Yeah. Every time my friend gets drunk at my house, he picks up my acoustic guitar and fucking throws that Capo on and plays Wonderwall.
Britain 00:19:04
Oh my God. Call me next time.
Cole 00:19:06
I have to stop em’ if it’s Scotty.
Joel 00:19:09
Of course he does!
Britain 00:19:09
Send them outside and send them to my window.
Cole 00:19:12
Yeah, Yeah. Throw him out
Joel 00:19:14
Bow your head, like, God dammit… not again…
[Laughter]
Britain 00:19:17
… God.
Britain 00:19:20
Oh man. Anyways, uh, we were on bonfires,, bonfires, being a huge part of the tradition. Um, they were, uh, mainly to light up or help the spirits find their way as they return home. And, uh, again, they would lay out huge tables of food and drinks to welcome them almost. You know what I mean? So like, uh, people that had died, you know, and I even saw like, um, right early America after the civil war, you know, you had so many dead people and bodies like laying around that… unclaimed and nobody knew who they were. So like, some people would even like take it upon them to try to do, you know, the right thing as far as rituals and pray on them and like, you know, very, the dead do certain things. And they know that that would be a part of it too. Those would be the spirits and stuff on their way home or returning home. And you know, that each year that they would do, they would lay out, you know, an offering for, um, and, and, you know, during the bonfires, too, you know, old parlor games, such as, you know, the bobbing for apples that we mentioned earlier that ties in with the Roman culture of a Pomona, um, you know, they would have old parlor games that really unusual methods and, um, you know, things like dream interpretations, future telling regarding death and marriage, you know, who’s going to get married and stuff. And I forget, they, you know, they would have a certain little game they’d play and, you know, whoever won that game would, you know, they, they said that you’re the next to be married. Simple times man. Yeah. Pretty cool stuff though. You know, I can, I can really envision it, but.
Cole 00:20:55
It seems like their community was way more tightly knit than it is now. Like if everyone, they got like everyone to come together.
Speaker 1 00:21:01
Well, yeah. You’re not distracted by, you know, globally connecting. You weren’t connected. You were, you were there in the moment, which a balance I believe in, but you know, nature baby to have a balance
Cole 00:21:19
Because I don’t even like, know my, some of my neighbors that live like, you know, a couple of meters from my house.
Britain 00:21:26
Yeah.
Cole 00:21:28
And these people are coming here predicting marriage with their people, neighbors and stuff.
Britain 00:21:32
Well, it’s typically the younger groups, you know, the, the younger folks, it was like how they had parties, you know…
Cole 00:21:41
Yeah I get that
Britain 00:21:43
I’m sure there was probably some, you know, little Apple cider that was probably sitting now for a while. It would get you jacked.
Cole 00:21:49
Yeah.
Britain 00:21:50
But now that’s basically where the parlor tricks of, you know, Apple bobbing came around, you know, roasting knots was popular. Um, I dunno what the hell pouring egg whites into water would do, but apparently they used to pour egg whites into water.
Cole 00:22:06
It taste like shit…
Britain 00:22:07
Yeah fuck all that. Um, but you know how, like you would throw the, the ghost sheet on
Cole 00:22:15
Oh yeah.
Britain 00:22:16
To like you know, you know, cut the holes in or whatever that actually came from like winding sheets or sheets that you would throw over dead bodies, you know, to cover them up. So you’re like, you’re literally, yeah. Not only trying to be the ghost it’s like directly related to death.
Cole 00:22:35
So you started that one.
Britain 00:22:36
I think that goes back into probably the pre or excuse me, post-civil war stuff. You know, there’s a lot of deaths you’ve gotta cover it. Um, you know, the headline or process, I guess, to it, to properly, I’ll say it dispose of a body, but they’ll try to do it ritualistically to where they in all fits their social norms or Morales or whatever they call those mores or something. I forget. But the Boni…, uh, the bonfires, dude definitely seem to be a massive part of that. And, uh, when we touched on the bats already, which I thought was cool, I didn’t really think of that. They didn’t really have like a fucking flashlight or anything new. They kind of just, HEY LOOK A BAT! Some of the first times that the ancient Celtic people actually got a good look at a bat.
Cole 00:23:30
Yeah bats are creepy too.
Joel 00:23:33
I believe that.
Britain 00:23:34
And that’s when the first person got the Wu Han.
Cole 00:23:38
Yeah. This is where coronavirus started.
Britain 00:23:41
Yeah. Thank you, Sam. (Samhain) I think, uh, the, the, witches got the worst of it though, they got the worst of the worst, uh, black cats, brooms, all that stuff was brought in the spotlight, um, during a w-like the witch trial era, but witches, as a staple, as far as like a symbol, you know, they definitely got the worst. Did they were literally burned at the stake.
Cole 00:24:05
Oh yeah.
Britain 00:24:06
So you can’t have, you know, a Samhain festival without talking about witches.
Joel 00:24:12
Yeah, but did you see, or listen to… what the fuck was that? I’m trying to remember the dude’s name, but there was some research found that basically suggests that the people in that community at that time, like in Salem and stuff, [Mhm] we’re in, and we’re ingesting a form of lysergic acid. So they there’s all this research that goes, but there’s a new book that came out recently, um, from some guy who was studying Ayahuasca and other stuff, but I’ll put the name in the show notes and all that just for reference. Um, but yeah, so basically they were showing how like lysergic acid and others, you know, other psychedelic compounds have been in history since, you know, as far as we know, at least 6,000 years BCE. So [Interesting] And one of the things they found was the people that were living in like the Salem, um, area for like the witch trials and all that there is, I don’t remember exactly how they found the data, but there was really, really high levels of suggestion that there was lysergic acid and a lot of these older, old communities that weren’t really into the naturalist portion, such as like, you know, native American stuff, some South Americans, and ate acid. I mean, they ate mushrooms, sorry. I correct that in Ayahuasca and stuff, but a lot of these kind of like Western Puritans would essentially make a juice or wine or alcohol or with a psychedelic compound. And so long story short, there’s just evidence that suggests that they were basically tripping during this time, which very well could have attributed to their irrational thinking.
Britain 00:26:03
Yeah. I’ve always taken the approach that the witches themselves were not what they said they were. Um, I, I choose to believe that, witches where probably your, um, what, what I would say modern day, like astrologers, healers, or even like, um, herbal, herbal and flu- enthusiasts, like doing like healing crystals and stuff like that. Like the different abstract ways of healing yourself and like thought preservation and things like that, I think were probably what they considered, “witches”, you know, it’s even more so prevalent now that we see that people are, they don’t like things that aren’t like them. And I think that was pretty much that in a nutshell, I mean, they, they were do things a little more abstract than normal for the times, and they didn’t like that. So…
Cole 00:26:55
So you’re saying that every basic white girl on Instagram would be burned at the stake?
Britain 00:26:59
Dude. I mean a lot of them, yeah. I mean, I don’t know nowadays you have people that just, you know, see and want to do. Everybody’s like, uh, like a repeater box or something, you know, like there’s no substance there just on the outside. You’re this is bullshit image, but really on the inside, you really have no idea what you want. You secretly hate yourself. You know what I mean? I mean, I’ve been there, but you know, you reinvent yourself and create, you know, something like that. But I, yeah, I think that, you know, some of the people right now that I know that do you know, Tarot card readings, or that may dive into the occult, you know, those are the people that are probably persecuted in the time burned at the stake, you know, for no damn reason, nothing. I mean, unless you’re out there, you know, trying to put a spell on somebody, then, you know, maybe I deserve it. Maybe they don’t, you know, who am I to say that?
Cole 00:27:50
Yeah.
Britain 00:27:51
But to eat a bunch of acid and go and burn some people at the stake, because you’re scared. It seems to be a little weird. I don’t know. I, I do think the, witches definitely got the worst of that. Um, I don’t know.
Britain 00:28:12
Yeah. Trick or treating and the costumes and all that. You could, you could tie that back into the Aos Si’ you know, you would, uh, dress up so the dead wouldn’t recognize you or whatever. So that’s kind of how the costumes came about. Uh, also the door to door knocking in those costumes was probably early on. They were like, I’m praying with, with peoples and their neighbors. And they would have like, I guess the table set up with different, you know, food and offerings and stuff like that. And I would assume that since costumes were being worn, there’d be some sort of show or some color, some sorta like scary display of some sort, and your reward would prowl your treat, you know, would probably be some sort of spice cake or something like that. And some drinks of some sort, you know, for your trick, your trick being your costume, or your scare or something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think that was called gazing or something like that. I’m probably butchering it, but
Joel 00:29:13
Makes sense. Yeah.
Britain 00:29:16
Pretty cool. Shit. The scrying, through mirrors though. Seen, it seemed to be a dangerous form of witchcraft that I didn’t really dive much into, but I want to.
Cole 00:29:29
Yeah.
Britain 00:29:30
You ever heard of scrying, before? I had not.
Cole 00:29:31
Yeah. You think you can get us to that so people don’t use drop or do you think they thought that like S like shit got weird when they looked in the mirrors or something?
Britain 00:29:40
I think when you pray on the innocent, like that, it brings a certain sort of negativity or vibration that may, that may bring on or awaken, or, you know, put some sort of negative vibrational back into you being the spirit that people think you get possessed or haunted by. I think it does something to you. I mean, I don’t think it’s good for you. I think, you know, spying on somebody that’s innocent that doesn’t know that you’re doing it is a negative reaction. And I think what you put out, you get so.
Cole 00:30:17
Right. I think people are doing, like, people are doing something that’s like a moral and they know what they’re like, but they’re doing it wrong. It’s probably just, you know, it gives them a bad feeling, you know, unless they’re a sociopath, but it’s a whole different thing.
Britain 00:30:31
I think that’s why they say a dangerous form of witchcraft, because I think there are not dangerous forms of witchcraft. I think there are negative and positive forms. I think there are things, you know, and that’s why I’m kind of to the point where I think that the witches weren’t always bad. I think they may have just, you know, not have agreed with the, the prominent, rich white dude, uh, eaten all the Acid.
Cole 00:30:53
Yeah.
Joel 00:30:54
Have you actually looked at like other cultures, like look at the Sumerians? And that was the exact thing like the entire Necronomicon is basically going into where homeboy, I can’t remember his name once again, show notes, but basically homeboy was practicing and you go through like these various stages in alchemy under the Samarian kind of rule, I guess we’ll say theology and you go through phases and they would basically represent every moon or planet that they were aware of as kind of the most advanced phase. So like you would learn that, learn this spell in alchemy, and you would have the powers of the moon, which in Sumerian was [Nanna] or what they said, “Sin”. So that’s where the word Sin derives from is the goddess [Nanna] in Sumerian theology. And then you just keep on going up, like Marduk was Mars, I think. And he’s the one that like actually killed Cthulhu, Cthulhu, however you want to say it, but yeah, basically the whole Necronomicon is based on this guy who kept on advancing the different phases of these different kind of alchemy type spells and I want to say he went past the Marduk phase and essentially because he was a mortal, um, he did not have the ability to really take that effectively. So it made him bat-shit crazy in sense or well crazy and irresponsible and just ineffective overall to point where he couldn’t control kind of his powers and the spells he was doing and what-not. So it released the [OWNS] who were the ancient ones who hated the humans. And that’s why like Marduk, um, you know, Thoth and all that stuff come from is where they defeated the [Owns] and what-not. And, um, yeah, what happened was he did it irresponsibly and he lit the portal loose. That’s what Evil Dead II. And Evil Dead is based off of, and it opened up this portal, allowing the [owns] and the ancient evil ones that hated humans to enter the world again. And that’s what made him mad. So that’s essentially the entire Necronomicon.
Britain 00:33:24
That’s super cool.
Cole 00:33:25
Hmm. That’s interesting.
Joel 00:33:28
But, in the old and religion to it, my point was that that was just a random rant, was that if you used it properly and without malice or, you know, we’re responsible about it and we’re careful, and you’ve progressed through the steps as you’re supposed to and into the next phases, into, you know, advance, essentially, if you did it properly and wistful control, everything is fine. But if you’re trying to skip ahead or, you know, do it quick or anything like that, all shit, hell can wreak havoc in one night. And you have the outcomes such as what happened to the guy in the Necronomicon.
Cole 00:34:10
Yeah. I feel like, yeah. I feel like if you don’t know what you’re doing and you’re like, you know, mess around with like the spirit world, even something like as simple as Ouija board, you’re definitely messing with like, uh, I don’t know. I feel like dark powers almost. I don’t want to sound superstitious, but you know.
Joel 00:34:25
Yeah
Cole 00:34:26
There’s only been stories of like people and like people like are messing around with tarot cards at like a party is like a party trick. We don’t really know what they’re doing. And then, you know, they, they read someone’s Tara card then like, that person has like insane, um, sleep. Is it sleep paralysis? Like when you see like figures above your bed or something?
Joel 00:34:44
Yeah.
Cole 00:34:46
Yeah. It has been stories where like, people would get like insane sleep paralysis and like really like weird paranormal things like happening in their house, like after the tarot card reading and stuff. But I feel like someone who’s like knows what they’re doing and practices that stuff all the time and, you know, wants to use it for good, not to just mess around with like another room, you know, you know, it’s definitely safer that way, if that makes sense.
Joel 00:35:08
Yeah. I mean, it’s kind of like even the whole, um, like old school sense or, you know, the sense that everything’s on, like vibrational or, you know, thousands or millions of years of just shit, that’s reoccurring, you know, they say like in physical health and stuff, um, for instance, like bioenergetics breath and stuff like that, if you’re holding internal pain or emotional pain or something you never dealt with or anything like that, then you’re basically keeping it contracted in your central nervous system. And if you don’t take the time, you know, um, to practice it, to get it out and to stretch that out to where it’s not there anymore, the, my logic is what I’m saying is it applies to those type of vibrations would be like a Ouija board or you’re some trying to specifically some in the fucking devil, you know, you’re putting these ancient vibrations out there that have occurred thousands, if not millions of times throughout history that you’re almost essentially conjuring up those vibes or whatever is associated or correlated with that in doing so, you know, irresponsibly.
Cole 00:36:17
Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.
Britain 00:36:19
I am a firm believer that, that Ouija board, is some bad shit, dude. It’s got some bad Juju with it, for sure.
Cole 00:36:30
Oh yeah. I mean, you’re literally just like messing around with like, you know, dark powers. If you want to call it that.
Britain 00:36:37
Isn’t the most like common question that comes through, “will you let me in?”
[ARE YOU THERE – Spooky Sample]
Joel 00:36:46
Nope! Not today, sir.
Britain 00:36:49
That’s what I’ve heard.
Cole 00:36:50
Yeah, Nope. I’ve never messed with the Ouija board, but I’ve always been interested in, I don’t know, like paranormal stuff and like, you know, bullied in it. So I’ve always thought like, you know, when you mess around with, when you’re like going around, like, you know, asking for a trouble, you know, you’ll get it essentially.
Britain 00:37:08
Yeah, oh yeah. I don’t like any of that bad energy man. Uh, honestly, uh, harmony has been burning Sage since we’ve been recording this podcast and she’s actually placing our black tourmaline in all the corners of the house.
Cole 00:37:22
Really?
Britain 00:37:23
The four corners, yeah to create a grid of a black tourmaline energy healing. I mean, we get into that dude. It’s what I do. You don’t like it. I mean, go ahead. Knock it. I dare yah.
Cole 00:37:33
Dude. I think I’m summoning something right now. Because I’ve got a candle lit like blue Christmas lights, all the lights off and I’m looking at a fucking death metal poster right now.
Joel 00:37:43
Hah!
Britain 00:37:44
You might be summoning some bad juju.
Cole 00:37:46
Yeah, Dude if I, yeah…
Britain 00:37:47
But I don’t know. You said you got what? Blue lights.
Cole 00:37:49
Yeah, Blue lights, or at least they’re not like red or…
Britain 00:37:53
Yeah, blue is cool. That’s high vibration, you know?
Joel 00:37:56
Well, I think it’s safe to say that I’m pretty sure I don’t have bad juju, but I do get some voodoo shit around here. So I always, every time I go to New Orleans, like, like something I keep, I keep a voodoo doll for good luck in my car that I bought from new Orleans.
Britain 00:38:14
Man.
Joel 00:38:16
I don’t know man that shit never really has affected me that much. I’m just kind of accept it. If it does happen. I’m just like, well, common demon today. Oh, well.
Cole 00:38:26
[Laughter]
Britain 00:38:26
Yeah. I mean, I suppose go with the flow. Right?
Cole 00:38:29
Just admit you’re a demon.
Britain 00:38:33
Have you guys, um, staying on topic with, uh, Samhain here, have you guys heard of it about how the Jack-O-Lantern came around?
Cole 00:38:43
Yes. But you can tell the story better than me. I’m sure.
Joel 00:38:46
Yeah you can go on and refresh because I don’t remember fully.
Joel 00:38:50
So Cole, are, i-. Let’s make sure we’re talking about the same story here, cause I’m sure there’s a bunch of different ones, but basically about stingy Jack and his little…
Cole 00:39:00
Yeah. And the devil. [Yeah… yeah]
Britain 00:39:02
Yes, sir… Okay….All right. So stingy Jack, dude, he invites the devil out for a drink and the devil has a good time and he wants a second drink with Jack. So Jack, you know, he kind of, he pony, ponies out. It goes… Ponies up and he goes back out there with him. He doesn’t really want to pay. So he tries to convince the devil to turn himself into coins. So that way he can get him more drinks. But the second he turns in the coins, Jack stuffs them in his pouch quickly and then put him in his pocket next. Or he put em the coins in a pouch next to a silver cross so that the devil couldn’t go anywhere. He was, you know, he was rendered useless with the silver cross, the crucifix, um, Jack made the devil promise to leave him alone for an entire year and not to damn his soul. If he let him change back. And the devil agreed. So, so then Jack goes on, you know, a year and doesn’t have any, you know, more run-ins or, and, and he’s not damned, you know, he’s able to have some success in his life, but then after that year, the devil comes back around Jack, then trick the devil again, and the climbing a tree with a crucifix carved into it. Jack then told him to leave him alone for a decade. And he would allow him to come back down. Devil is frustrated at this time. He’s super pissed. He got him twice, but he honored his word after, uh, after Jack lets him down the devil doesn’t damn him and the devil doesn’t bother him for an entire decade. God, at this point is super pissed at Jack for all of his mischief. So he then rejects his access to heaven. So when Jack dies, have already pissed off the devil and no access to hell and through his mischief and his taunting and his belittling and childlike play that he did towards the devil is not allowed in heaven. He is only given, but one gift from the devil and that is a coal, a single burning coal. Because he’s stuck in the darkness to wander around with. And that’s always guessed. So he grabs a nearby turnip, carves, a hole in it and places this coal inside of it to create a lantern. And, um, that’s where the story comes. You know, he’s, he ends up being “Jack of lanterns” or “The Jack of lanterns” and they shorten it to “Jack-o-lantern”. It doesn’t become a pumpkin until later on when the traditions of Samhain become Americanized, because I don’t even think that, hell when was it that the squash even made it over to England? You know, they had turnips then. So, um, the, the pumpkin and all the, the candle and the pumpkin was popularized in and America. But you know, then when it started, you know, with the tale, it was always a turnip or something like that, one of those vegetables.
Britain 00:42:36
But I found that to be quite the story, you know, kind of taunting the devil, getting, getting banished from hell, you know, God kind of turning his shoulder to you and not allowing you access to heaven and you’re left there in the darkness…
Cole 00:42:51
That’s wild, yeah.
Britain 00:42:52
…to wander around with, with a single coal.
Cole 00:42:57
That’s not very nice.
Britain 00:43:00
Well, don’t drink, dude.
Cole 00:43:02
Yeah. Moral of the story.
Britain 00:43:03
Devil wanted a drink and he got more than he bargained for.
Cole 00:43:07
Yeah.
Britain 00:43:09
All right. So I guess, um, Joel, did you want to get a little deeper here?
Joel 00:43:15
Yeah. Yeah. I don’t really know much about that. Aside from what you just told me about an inch is pretty straight forward.
Britain 00:43:23
Well, earlier, you did mention something about, do they sacrifice, well, some tales may suggest that offerings or sacrifices were made and in these particular tales, um, the “Lebor Gabála Érenn” or “The book of invasions”.
Joel 00:43:44
Or the liberals…
Britain 00:43:45
Or the liberals. Yeah. [Laughter] But in The Book of Invasions, the people of Nemed, had to give two thirds of their children, their corn, and their milk to the monstrous Famorians.
Joel 00:43:58
That’s a lot of fucking kids.
Britain 00:44:02
What if you only have one? [Laughter] Do you get, do you cut the child up into two thirds and give it to them. I mean, that’s awful to say, I’m sorry.
Joel 00:44:12
Is this like on a yearly basis? Like, How in the hell would they survive…
Britain 00:44:17
I don’t know. This is from, this is from a book. So who knows. Who are the Fomorians, better yet?
Cole 00:44:27
Fomorians?
Britain 00:44:28
Yeah. The Fomorians seemed to represent the harmful or destructive powers of nature, chaos, darkness, death, blight, drought. So basically it was a sacrifice. It wasn’t like a particular person or group of people.
Cole 00:44:41
Do you think it’s just like a superstitious then?
Britain 00:44:43
Yeah. That’s what it seems like. Yeah. Uh, this tribute paid by the Nemeds people may represent a sacrifice offered at the beginning of winter when the powers of darkness and blight are in the ascendant, according to the latter and I see and a book called “The Annals of Four Masters”, which were written by Christian Monks. Samhain and ancient Ireland was associated with a God or idol called “Crom Cruach”. The texts claim that a firstborn child would be sacrificed at the stone idol of Crumb and “Magh Slécht”. These are, I guess, um, particular locations in a particular town or city, they say that King Tigernmas or “Tigernmas”, the three fourths of his people died while worshiping, um, this particular place or this particular God “Crom”. Yeah dude pretty deep.
Cole 00:45:44
Damn.
Britain 00:45:48
Pretty deep.
Joel 00:45:50
Yeah. It’s pretty wild.
Cole 00:45:51
So is that a like, is that all like speculation or they’re like records of, uh,
Britain 00:45:55
Those are, yeah, those are like tails and books. So you can actually look these books up and read them and like actually go into depth on that story. And there’s apparently a bunch, it seems like, you know, each different, you know, you know religious sect or area, you know, has one, you know, like each different mythology, if you will, as kind of like their own tales of, of traditions and, and deeds that are, that happen on, um, saw one and they all seem to have, you know, they all seem to carry that same vibe of, you know, uh, dead and, you know, killing people or, you know, rituals, uh, definitely offerings. And, um, it’s weird how they all seem to have kind of the similar thing.
Cole 00:46:43
Yeah.
Joel 00:46:47
Yeah… Cause humans are crazy.
Britain 00:46:48
Which would… do what now?
Joel 00:46:51
Because humans are crazy.
Britain 00:46:55
Oh, hell yeah. Dude.
Joel 00:46:56
You ever see that footage where Alex Jones like busted into the Bohemian Grove thing?
Britain 00:47:02
Yes. Yes I have
Cole 00:47:02
Yes. Have you ever seen him explaining it?
Britain 00:47:07
I don’t know if I’ve… No, I haven’t. I’ve just seen like little snippets of like the craziness. It looks like it was taken from an old VHS camera you throw on your shoulder and shit. But I mean, it was a ritual, you know, it’s like these a, what do they call those? Uh, um, Oh shit. I don’t know. There’s these rituals, those elite do I can’t remember what it’s called. It’s probably a good thing. I say it.
Cole 00:47:32
Yeah. I was watching that one. It was like this one, a rapper has a podcast. It’s not something it’s like Timberland or something, or no, T I, is TI a rapper?
Britain 00:47:42
Yeah. Yeah.
Cole 00:47:43
Okay. Oh, TI had Alex Jones on his podcast for some reason….
Joel 00:47:47
WHAT!
Cole 00:47:49
Haha, and Alex Jones and Alex Jones is like explained to a T I the Bohemian Grove thing. And like, TI is like giving them like the weirdest looks it’s so funny.
Joel 00:48:00
Oh my God I have to heard that. That has to be, that has to be the best interview ever.
Cole 00:48:04
Yeah, new. It’s hilarious. It’s on YouTube to look up like TI/Alex Jones and it’ll come up.
Joel 00:48:10
Oh my god.
Britain 00:48:12
I’ve gotta check that out…
Joel 00:48:13
I met. I met him once. Hes pretty wild.
Cole 00:48:17
Alex. Mr. Jones.
Joel 00:48:18
Yeah. Yeah I have a friend that works over at Info Wars. Shout out to Jacob Engle’s.
Britain 00:48:26
That’s nice. He’s got to come on the pod, bro.
Cole 00:48:30
So when, when are we getting Alex on the podcast here?
Britain 00:48:33
Ha, yeah right.
Joel 00:48:34
I’m trying to get Jacob and Tyler to come on. They already agreed to come on, but I, every time I’m like, just tell me a date and a time and I’ll make it work. And I haven’t got word back yet.
Cole 00:48:50
That’d be crazy
Britain 00:48:50
It’s a busy time of the year right now. I think for everybody there’s a lot happening. And I think there’s a lot going to go on this week.
Joel 00:48:56
But yeah. Well, they’ve been in DC, I think the whole last week doing something.
Britain 00:49:04
Do y’all want to finish this up with any of your own traditions that you like to do or that you’re planning to start, or sometimes you, you want to bring forward to the table before finishing thoughts here.
Cole 00:49:15
Well, this is a first fear that I’m going to be giving out candy.
Joel 00:49:20
Really?
Cole 00:49:21
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because the first year I’ve had my house, so it’s a weird.
Britain 00:49:26
I will add. I don’t think we’d get a lot of trick or treaters around here.
Cole 00:49:30
Oh yeah?
Britain 00:49:31
No, they always say no, they always seem to go on the other neighborhood over.
Cole 00:49:35
Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. I was just going to…
Britain 00:49:37
So don’t buy a whole lot, but yeah. Get a bowl. But I mean, if you have some, that’d be surprising to me last, you know, four or five years that I’ve been here. I haven’t had much.
Cole 00:49:44
Yeah. Yeah. There’s this older people.
Britain 00:49:49
Yeah. Yeah. We definitely need to get together and do a, do something. Let’s try to partake in some of these festivities. I’ve got some, yeah. I’ve probably got about 10 pumpkins to carve, you know, we can do some, we can do some pumpkin carving or something, but I like to do the whole nine man. Yeah. I try to do the whole nine. I definitely leave a pumpkin out, lit overnight. And I try to do them every night, October. And you know, I watch Halloween movies like crazy, but the traditional ones, man, that the old classics, the John carpenters and, you know, half the time when I watched the ones that have like 12 versions of it, like the Jason there’s like 12 of them, I don’t even watch, but the first one and then go on to something else. What do yall do?
Cole 00:50:31
Yeah, I mean, those are the, usually I’m the same. I watch. We should all, uh, discuss her favorite horror movies. Now that’d be, that’d be fun.
Britain 00:50:39
Ohh.
Joel 00:50:40
Yeah, let’s do it!
Britain 00:50:41
I will start it off. And I’m going to go with my number one favorite that I always kick it off with every year. And, and the reason why I’m going to go with a horror or Halloween, um, and not my “Nightmare Before Christmas”. Cause I, I say that’s a Christmas movie, but I’m going to go with a movie called, “Trick r’ Treat”.
Cole 00:51:02
Hmm.
Joel 00:51:03
That’s pretty good.
Britain 00:51:06
That movie is phenomenal. It’s actually got, I think three or four different storylines going on that all intertwine at the same time, they kind of tie it all in at the end. And it is, actually, about the traditions of Samhain. They intertwine those stories with the yes. Very good movie. If you have not seen it, I recommend watching it like soon.
Joel 00:51:30
I saw that movie t’s been years ago and I was on drugs.
Britain 00:51:32
Yeah. You need to check it out again. You probably missed a lot of the, you know, the plot and stuff. Cause there’s a lot going on. Like literally all four plot lines are intertwining at a time.
Joel 00:51:43
So what are the confines? I don’t even know that that’s the right word. What are the constraints let’s go there. What are the constraints of this Halloween movies, horror movies in general? Or does it have to be Halloween?
Cole 00:51:56
No, just like horror movies. I was, I was talking to this person.
Britain 00:51:59
Yeah. Like whatever you consider to be festive time of the year for you that you would want. I mean really any Gore horror movie would count. So throw out your favorite. They’re mine this time of year would be trick or treat.
Joel 00:52:15
I like it. Where are you guys going to have to give me a second. Cause that’s a hard decision for me to make.
Britain 00:52:20
Oh, I know. I know how many movies you have. I could imagine. Joel… or Cole you’re gonna have to go next.
Cole 00:52:25
Yeah. Uh, I, I probably just had to say Halloween, honestly.
Britain 00:52:29
The original John Carpenter.
Cole 00:52:31
Yeah.
Britain 00:52:32
My man.
Cole 00:52:32
No, there’s, there’s something about it. There’s just a vibe about that movie.
Britain 00:52:36
You know what it is?
Cole 00:52:37
What?
Britain 00:52:40
It’s the original pumpkin and the original jack-o-lantern look, you know what I mean? It’s the pumpkins in every single scene. Plus, it was the very first movie about Halloween. There were no other scary movies. Like it, there were no other, you know, and I think John Carpenter even says, you know, one of the guys that worked on the film with him came to him, you know, when the filmography is or something came to him was like, you know, nobody has made a movie like, uh, just about Halloween like this. And that’s where he came up with. The name was like, you know what, you’re right. I don’t want you to think of this years ago, I call it the Halloween. But there’s literally like pumpkins in every scene and it’s just got that. And it’s also, it started to make Halloween in America for adults. You know, it. Started that, you know, opposite into sexy almost, you know, you can wear sexy costumes and stuff, but then you go on, you watch the gory scary, crazy movie before you take off the costumes, if you will.
Cole 00:53:40
Yeah dude. It’s funny too, because the, I think the story’s supposed to be taking place in Illinois, but they obviously filmed it in California. So all the trees are still green. Uh, you know, it’s just kind of funny.
Britain 00:53:53
Eh thanks for ruining it for me. I didn’t notice this.
Cole 00:53:58
Yeah, I never noticed, Oh my God. Yeah, I do. I love that movie. Like this soundtrack. I love like old eighties, like a horror movie soundtrack.
Joel 00:54:05
Well, that entire score was written by him by John Carpenter while he was, and it’s actually has like, is it the, um, Western Kentucky University symphony, like the entire, uh, band for those first scores, it was movies like that. And the fog and stuff was all from Western Kentucky University. Cause that’s where he grew up. That’s where he went to school at.
Britain 00:54:28
Shout out W.K.U.
Cole 00:54:31
Yeah I didn’t know that. That is cool.
Britain 00:54:34
Alright, Joel, You are up brother!
Speaker 2 00:54:35
Man. I’m, I’m actually going to throw a couple out in genres.
Britain 00:54:40
Do it, do it, yea lay it out for us.
Joel 00:54:
So, zombie movie, I’m going to go with the “Dead Next Door” because it’s just absolutely ridiculous. And it has Devin was, um, Bruce Campbell. And let’s see for, we’ll just say non-American horror. I’m gonna go with, um, “Audition” from, um, God, I can’t even say his name, but, um, [MECASA] Miyaki or something like that. He’s saying that at wrote, “Ichi the killer”, but “Audition”, have you ever seen it was a proof fucked up crazy movie. Um, and then like just old-school, you know, traditional eighties or eighties, seventies, horror movie. I’m gonna go with types of Halloween, I don’t know maybe the Phantasm movies. Those are pretty, those are pretty neat and they’re cheesy, but they’re good.
Cole 00:55:44
Hmm. I’m going to be honest. I’ve never heard of any of those.
Joel 00:55:50
What, so Phantasm is a really, really great like kind of cheesy series. There’s like six of them total, but the first one came out in the late seventies, um, during that period. And it’s about essentially this other dimension of doors and some guy that runs a cemetery kind of deal. Um, and yeah, it’s pretty cool. The Ichi the killer is really bad as it is essentially like a antihero superhero and it’s this little Asian dude. And um, I dunno how to explain it otherwise. And he’s like this little shy guy that gets contracted to kill people, but like the opening credits of the movie have him like jerking off outside of this prostitute’s house. And then the jizz hits the ground and it comes. And then the name ichi, the killer comes out of his Jizz. And it’s just like the most violent Japanese horror movie you may ever see, or I’m sorry. I was talking about auditioning, but audition. Yeah. It’s about this girl who tries out for a, um, to be on TV or something like that for a news channel, she gets rejected. And the guy who runs it keeps saying he’s in the call her back and he never does. So she gets all psycho and ends up kidnapping him and doing some really, really fucked up shit to him.
Britain 00:57:11
Yeah. I’m gonna take it. Uh, I’m gonna take it a little left field here. And I’ve recently sat down with harmony and watched every single Twilight movie. And I have to say that those fucking movies are actually pretty good. I enjoyed myself thoroughly watching that with her.
Cole 00:57:33
I’ve never seen them.
Britain 00:57:34
Dude. I had like watched, I think the first one way back when it was like, man, but then watching them with her, I actually sat down and like when she would kind of like tell me some things here and there, like the ship was legit, it was action packed enough. And I mean, there’s, I don’t know, Joel, I think you’d probably get into if you hadn’t seen them, especially now getting into those sappy anime’s and shit.
Joel 00:58:00
My, uh, my ex girl, I don’t know. I don’t know what you want to call her. My ex-girlfriend is when I’m in the call her right now. Um, but I saw them with her and I mean, they’re not horrible. They’re not good, but they’re not horrible. I guess. Like I compared the, that series too. Like I like true blood, but is true blood. Good? Not really…
Britain 00:58:25
I didn’t like true blood.
Joel 00:58:27
It’s still enjoyable.
Britain 00:58:30
Sorry. True blood fans. Well, uh, what about, um, I mean, I like Candyman of course, all the classics, like “A Nightmare on Elm Street” and “Friday the 13th”. Those are good. Of course.
Cole 00:58:47
Texas chainsaw massacre is up there too though.
Joel 00:58:50
Yeah. Ah, all right. So y’all, I’m canceling because this is our culture. We cancel shit. I’m canceling all my choices that I’m going with Texas Chainsaw massacre II.
Britain 00:59:02
Number two.
Joel 00:59:04
Yeah, Just cuz’ uh…
Britain 00:59:04
Dude…
Joel 00:59:06
Also as a preface, the movie came out around the same time as the breakfast club, I think, but their promotional posters, the Toby Hooper made all the characters from Texas chainsaw massacre to set themselves up. Exactly like breakfast club, um, kids are on their poster. So I actually have those posters side by side next to me right now. So yeah that is cool.
Britain 00:59
That’s funny… You know what I saw earlier? I saw that the soup characters in Jurassic park were wearing like the same clothes as the Goonies go back and look for it. You’ll see.
Joel 00:59:42
All right. Um, and then you guys watched the HP Lovecraft series at all on, is it Hulu?
Britain 00:59:54
I have not, what’s it called?
Joel 00:59:56
It’s called Lovecraft and some type of like, uh, uh, American horror story style series, but it’s based off HP Lovecraft. I know it’s called Lovecraft.
Cole 01:00:06
No, I haven’t seen that.
Britain 01:00:09
I have not either. I will look into that.
Joel 01:00:11
Yeah. Um, real quick. I know we’re here, we’re at an hour real quick, but just real quick, five minutes. Have you guys seen this shit about homeboy? Um, who was like in business with Hunter Biden, and now he’s going before the Senate tomorrow and he’s going to be a guest for tonight’s debate. What’s his name? Bob bullet. She her own. And I’m pulling them up. Tony Babulinsky.
Britain 01:00:45
I read some, uh, stuff briefly either, um, late yesterday or earlier today about it, but I haven’t gone into that. I haven’t been able to.
Joel 01:00:54
So a super high level, um, Hunter Biden’s ex business partner’s associate, and I believe double checking right now. Um, but they have like all these ties to like Ukrainian and Chinese business people and stuff like that. And they found that he’s testifying, that he has apparently like three cell phones that have text messages that directly, you know, show that Joe Biden was in business with the Hunters partners and like the Ukraine and China and stuff like that.
Britain 01:01:32
I saw as that he was getting some scrapings for the Biden, name. I saw that some money was coming
Joel 01:01:41
A bunch of dealings in China involving both Hunter Biden, and Uncle Jim Biden. And he’s turning over a bunch of phones in the Senate is going to start questioning him tomorrow. And they’re going to start basically figuring out the validity of these text messages in his testimony. And it said that a 10% of the shares in the business, they were all them was going directly to Joe. So all that Russian and Chinese hook shit towards Trump manually. And he just got fucking reamed.
Cole 01:02:22
So I’ve only seen that stuff from like my friends who are like into like conspiracy or like, you know, conspiracy, subreddit. And then I also read something that said like CNN wasn’t made a statement. So they weren’t like reporting on it because they said it like, quote unquote, wasn’t relevant to the election or something of that.
Britain 01:02:42
Yeah. They’re not reporting on it either. I saw which, uh, apparently John Paul Rice, if you guys don’t know and follow him, I’m trying to get him on the pod. John, if you’re listening to this, don’t forget. Don’t forget about us. Um, beard and brain, but now he’s, uh, he’s sharing all sorts of lengths about it, man. Uh, these, these people that have apparently been in the media, reaching out to him directly. So, you know, we’ll see how it shakes out. You said it’s, uh, he’s going to be a guest on the debate.
Speaker 2 01:03:15
Yeah. And tonight like fucking Trump specifically, I guess that tonight’s debate.
Britain 01:03:22
What time is that?
Joel 01:03:25
I think now
Britain 01:03:27
Ooopsies…
Joel 01:03:30
I think it’s either eight or nine, but…
Britain 01:03:34
Well, yeah, it’s gotta be interesting. See how that pans out in court.
Joel 01:03:39
Remember the drinking game for the night while Britain doesn’t drink. So every time you hear Biden, say, come on, man, you have to drink one or you’re a whore Jarritos things.
Britain 01:03:52
Oh yeah. That’d be awesome.
Cole 01:03:53
Come on, man.
Britain 00:01:03:56
That’d be awesome.
Joel 01:03:58
Come on man.
Cole 01:03:59
I love the memes where it’s like Trump saying something, then it’s just drove by and saying like, shut up, man.
Britain 01:04:04
That was hilarious when he told him to shut up. That was so funny, dude. I saw something or like social media, like super follows, like who you like as far as, you know, they’re, they’re polling, like who, who likes what? And then like there’s all these little new fads where it’s like go to your Facebook page and you know, see who, who likes Joe Biden and then see who likes Trump? Well, I went in there and liked both of them. So I’m going to be like that one statistic that likes both. People be like this fuck over here. I don’t know. I just want to skew the statistics a little bit. Just to be a Dick
Cole 01:04:44
So stupid though. Cause just because someone like falls a page doesn’t mean they like agree with
Britain 01:04:48
Fuck, no hell no, dude.
Cole 01:04:51
I follow the official flat earth society group just because it’s absolutely hilarious.
Britain 01:04:58
Yeah, dude. I mean, it’s okay to like, you know, what do they say? What’s the knuckle roll? Just like with your finger. Never mind. We’ll get into that… Never mind.
Joel 01:05:09
No, no. Like I’m only watching tonight’s debate just to see if anyone brings up Biden’s gun control plan. Cause that shit fucking insane.
Britain 01:05:26
Yeah, I’ll probably watch it.
Joel 01:05:28
And anybody in the rust belt, but yeah. I mean he’s like just basically like we’re abandoning everything. You can’t even buy a grip online if you want to.
Britain 01:05:40
Oh, the Richie’s are not liking his tax plan. 50 cent out there. He, he, with that noise is he, he don’t want that tax noise. I don’t want to pay any taxes. None! We get no love!
Joel 01:05:55
And when people don’t realize too is like, he is technically raising our taxes as well. Um, because you can just like, you can’t just choose the highest bracket and say, Oh, you’re going to be at this level. Every single level has to be in a B you know, advance incrementally. So I forget the numbers of it. I was looking at them earlier today, but it’s basically like a, uh, between like 0.5 and 1.5 decimal increase for every bracket in the Texas tax code. So yes, your taxes will be raised if you only make $10,000 a year.
Cole 01:06:34
That’s all I need. You know, I watched this one YouTube videos, like Biden, it was like at some factory, I don’t know, like a lot of like blue collar workers. And they were asking me about like his, uh, gun control laws. And he was like, yeah, I’m going to take away your AR fourteens. The guy’s like, you don’t even know what the fuck they’re called. He’s like…
Britain 01:06:53
AR 14.
Joel 01:06:55
What part of his gun controls thing is you’re only allowed to hunt with three shells. First of all, shells means like, what, are we going to go shoot pheasants and shit. Some burrs and quail is fucking Dick Cheney going to guide us on a hunting trip.
Britain 01:07:12
God hope not get shot in the FACE!
Joel 01:07:16
So I mean like, what did you hunt with slugs or some shit that’s not illegal now. Like it makes no sense to just point out, you can only go hunting with three shells. And I think like the most bullets you can have is 10 rounds or something. So it means like, I don’t know how that would work with certain hand guns and stuff, because you know, generally they go from seven rounds to 16, 17, whatever you have 20 or so in some cases,
Britain 01:07:47
I don’t know, I’ll leave it at this. It certainly seems like they’re the Biden, suck so bad. It’s almost like they’re making it, like, Trump’s the only option again. So I don’t know. I’ll just leave it with that.
Cole 01:08:05
I feel like, I feel like most people are thinking like, you know, let’s settle for Biden, even though he, like, we know he sucks, but you know, it’s, a lot of people are saying.
Britain 01:08:16
I would rather just stick with what we got now and kind of ride that out then…
Cole 01:08:21
Yeah it’s like insane…
Britain 01:08:22
…go with the opposite fucking end halfway through the second thing.
Cole 01
Yeah because it’s like insane like most Democrats have like somewhat lenient and drug laws, but Joe Biden’s just like, so blatantly, like, you know, anti-marijuana, it’s like, no, like what? Like, is there anything like redeeming about this too? Like that?
Joel 01:08:37
Hmm. I mean, I answer anything. I mean, just as simple, you know how bad he in Kamala Harris is, there’s no way I could ever support them. I mean the only thing,
Cole 01:08:56
Yeah. Didn’t. like Bernie got fucking cheated so hard. Like I don’t even know why he even like Democrats that time of day.
Joel 01:09:04
If they would have kept Bernie they would have had a better chance.
Cole 01:09:06
They probably would have won. I mean like Bernie was pulling numbers bigger than like Trump and guidance rallies, like both and somehow he didn’t get the nomination. Like it’s so obvious what’s going on.
Joel 01:09:17
Right.
Joel 01:09:18
And this is my thing. Like the only thing that people really have against Trump is just that he says stupid shit on Twitter and honest, you know, interviews. But his actual policy has been pretty legit so far. So I’m down for it. Yeah. It’s either him or Vermin Supreme.
Cole 01:09:37
Dude, yeah. Ill write in Vermin.
Joel 01:09:42
Same or Harambe again? Harambe got 15,000 votes. All right. Yeah, we can cut out any of the bullshit.
Britain 01:09:54
I still haven’t decided. Ill, probably wait I got timetime.
Joel 01:10:00
Go ahead and do your, uh, closing stuff
Britain 01:10:02
Hmm?
Joel 01:10:05
I said if no one else has anything we can go ahead and close it out.
Britain 01:10:09
Yeah. I say we go on and wrap this up? Thank you all for joining us and thank you Cole for joining us as well.
Cole 01:10:18
Thank you for having me guys.
Britain 01:10:20
Yeah, not a problem. And that’s it guys for another episode of beard and brain podcast.
Joel 01:10:30
Bye Bitches!!!