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Britain C. Griffin, Joel Hinton, & Cole Crutchfield

 

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Transcript

[INTRO]

[BeardXBrain Halloween Special Music – Produced by: JDAUNKNOWN]    00:00:00   

I am the writing on the wall, the whisper in the classroom! Without these things, I am nothing. So now, I must shed innocent blood. COME WITH ME!

 

[Woman Screams]    00:00:16

 

Joel    00:00:40   

You’re gold, Pony boy!

 

Britain    00:00:43

And, Welcome to beard and brain podcast where the beard gets weird. We interview interesting people about interesting things. I am your co-host Britain C. Griffin, and as always joining me is my hetero life mate, Joel Hinton. Today, we have a special guest Cole Crutchfield with us as we dive deep into Samhain, the festival that later became Halloween.

 

Cole    00:01:11

What’s up guys? How you doing?

 

Britain    00:01:13

What’s up, Joel? What’s up, Cole?

 

Cole    00:00:16

What’s up?

 

Joel    00:00:17

What’s up fam’?

 

Britain    00:01:18

All right, folks. Turn on the lights, check under your beds, and lock the doors. It’s about to get spooky on beard and brain… So we can just go in and dive in. 

 

Joel    00:01:26

You give me a hard on.

 

Britain    00:01:28

Oh, Ow.

 

Britain    00:01:31   

So, um, everybody, this is a, uh, I guess festive-ish style podcast we’re going to throw here. We’re going to go into, uh, the origins of Halloween, which is called Samhain, (Sah-win) spelled S. A. M. H. A. I. N. I don’t know how you get “Sah-win” from that. Um, but it does come from old Irish language and it means summer’s end. So, uh, celebrated by ancient Celts throughout Europe, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland. It, um, it basically marks the last day of summer or the first day of winter. And, uh, it’s also the, uh, end of the harvest season and serves as a transitional period from the years lighter and darker halves. So you, you kind of have, um, basically like a breakdown or a celebration in like the solstice.

 

Joel    00:02:28

Okay, cool.

 

Britain    00:02:30

So again, it’s, uh, it’s pronounced “Sah-Win”. I don’t know how they get that from…

 

Cole    00:02:36   

Yeah, I thought… it looks like “Sam-Hien” or something.

 

Britain   00:02:38

Yeah, “Saam-Hien” or something…

 

Cole    00:02:39

Or “Sam-Hayne”

 

Britain    00:02:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it’s actually pronounced “Saw-Win”. Um, but…

 

Joel    00:02:46

So it’s “Sah-WIN”?

 

Britain    00:02:47

Yeah, “Sah-Win”.

 

Joel    00:02:50

Gotcha! All right.

 

Britain    00:02:54

Alright, let’s see…

 

Joel    00:02:55

Had to get the phonetics down before I could continue my bad.

 

Britain    00:02:58

Um, I’m not gonna lie. I’ve actually had to look up a few of this stuff with the, um, pronunciations is to try to get close because with this being an old Irish and now it’s of course going to be kind of hard.

 

Joel    00:03:11

Yeah.

 

Britain    00:03:12

Um, but Samhain is held during a time where winter preparations are made crops are being harvested, you know, animals rounded up for sacrifice or, you know, to be housed for the winter, um, for breeding for next year. Um, you know, so on and so forth also a time, uh, where matters such as, you know, inaugurations of new Kings, uh, debts are to be repaid, you know, kind of like a, almost a retro grade, if you will, like a revisit back to, you know, earlier things that took place the year, you know, tie on loose ends, um,

 

Cole    00:03:48

Where they would bag up the lease in their yard. 

 

Britain    00:03:50   

Yeah. [Laughter] they even say that like trials for like, uh, like horrid crimes would take place. So somebody did some like crazy horrendous shit during the summer, or like early in the spring or something like typically during the, you know, into the year is when they would, they would do that. I guess that’s where a lot of the, um, you know, kind of death then.

 

Cole    00:04:14

So they just like, let them go. We know, we know you just killed someone, but we’ll let you have a good summer.

 

Britain    00:04:19

[Laughter] pretty much kind of like sit and ride for a while. Like the trials. 

 

Joel    00:04:24   

It seems like most of the cultures though, in like Western Europe and the, you know, Western civilization, like South America, Mexico, and I think even Indians and had some form of it, but they all seem to have some type of celebration. It seems around like the harvest moon. Um, you know, like the best example I can think of right now is Dia de Los Muertos on November 4th. 

 

Britain    00:04:51   

Yeah. Was that the day of the dead, right?

 

Joel    00:04:55

Yeah.

 

Britain    00:04:56

Yeah, That’s um, definitely got a lot of, and, and you’ll see, you know, later on, you’ll be able to pick that out to where it’s almost like Halloween ended up being just like a little piece of that. And then a little piece of this tradition, a little piece of that religion and stuff like that. Uh, it’s definitely, um, a mixed bag if you will.

 

Cole    00:05:16

So was it out there like a specific religion or is it just like an Irish culture thing? Like as a whole?

 

Britain    00:05:23

Let’s see. Um, I think it, I think it is early on like Celtic, um, Ireland, because they say that Rome, which I’ll get into in a minute, like, uh, the Romans early on when they invaded England and in Europe and all that, that’s when they came in and kind of the early mixing started. 

 

Cole    00:05:43   

Okay.

 

Britain    00:05:43

Yeah. So, basically as time grew on, it was easier and easier for Christianity. So basically swallow those traditions of Solomon and it, and it proved to be more effective rather than, you know, trying to stamp it out of history. You know, they were able to convert followers that way. And that’s basically where that started up to, uh, you know, where they started the mix and stuff, but it started out as an ancient Celtic or pagan festival. So, you know, if you had to link it to a religion, I guess the, you know, the pagans are ancient Celts.

 

Cole    00:06:12

Okay. Interesting.

 

Britain    00:06:13

Um, but as I mentioned earlier, uh, the year was split into two halves, a lighter and a darker half. And also, um, that, that, uh, Sam had Sam, Samwen or whatever Samhain, excuse me. It, it marked the Celtic New Year. So it was like the last kind of like Christmas towards the end of the, uh, the year and, uh, our actual new year’s Eve and new year’s day, or like the last two saw when was the last, you know, who Rob before the Celtic new year. So they actually celebrated the change in seasons four times a year, similar to what we do.

 

Britain    00:06:55

Um, the first one is called “Imbolk”, and it’s halfway between the winter solstice and spring Equinox. That’s Imbolk, I. M. B. O. L. K. 

 

Britain    00:07:08   

Uh, the second one is “Beltane” halfway between the spring Equinox and summer solstice. That’s B. E. L. T. A. N. E. 

 

Britain    00:07:21   

And then you’ve got a “Lughnasadh”, halfway between the summer solstice and fall Equinox. That’s L. U. G. H. N. A. S. A. D. H.

 

Britain    00:07:34

And then last but not least our topic today, Samwin, Sahwin, Samhain…

 

Cole    00:07:45

Samhain.

 

Britain    00:07:46

However many different…. names. It’s probably been called that one is halfway between the fall Equinox and winter solstice.

 

Britain    00:07:54

So you’ve got all four of those, basically they kind of would celebrate each time, you know, you would go into a new season and we kind of do that too here in America. [Yeah] We kind of celebrate that different holidays. I’ll Mark that, but… [Yeah] So basically you got the two halves that are split down the middle and then the four quarters. I mean, Imbolk, Beltane, Lughnasadh, and Samhain. 

 

Cole    00:08:22  

 Interesting.

 

Joel    00:08:23

Okay.

 

Britain    00:08:27

So I guess

 

Joel    00:08:29

So this all stems from a Celtic thing.

 

Britain    00:08:32

Yeah, yeah. Celtic and pagan Europe, uh, specifically like Scotland or Ireland mainly and including wales and shit like that. So a lot of my bloodline is from Wales’s descent and also Scandinavian…

 

Joel    00:08:51  

Same, most of minor Irish, German, and Norwegian. 

 

Britain    00:09:00   

Well, you started to get a lot of those changes. I was bringing up when, uh, the Romans invade. So the Romans invaded somewhere around 43 to 87 and they invited on it as a rule of Emperor Claudius and they too held autumn festivals. So, you know, it’s naturally that over time that they eventually took parts of both harvest festivals and kind of blended them piece by piece. So that is basically when you start to get the blend of the pagan festivals with, you know, more Christian/Catholic-ish kind of deals here. Um [gotcha], the, the Romans specifically though their harvest festival was centered around a fruit goddess. They honored the fruit goddess Pomona… even after, uh, yeah. Even after Catholicism took over, Pomona was still honored to remain a staple in the festivals. Um, so Pomona was like a really big part of the, uh, the Roman harvest festivals and pretty much stayed even if inadvertently a part of their, you know, traditions. 

 

Cole    00:10:10   

So where did like Pomona fall in with like the Christian mythology? Like, was that part of it or like, just like a separate thing? 

 

Britain    00:10:18   

No, this was early on, I would say, uh, not even really like, like a major figure, but early enough to where, I mean, I would say Pomona herself fell out of, and that’s why I say inadvertently, I would think Pomona herself fell out of popularity in the tradition, but the things that stayed was like, um, the, her main fruit being, or the most important fruit being the Apple. So like some of the traditions being like bobbing for apples or something, for example,[okay] those little parlor games and stuff like that ended up staying. I don’t really think it was like, like, she was definitely honored for like that time of year, maybe as a God that you would like say a prayer or something for as you’re like harvesting your crop or something. But I don’t think it was something as deeply rooted as like, you know, land in the Bible or something. 

 

Cole    00:11:10   

Yeah. That’s interesting. Cause a lot of like Christianity and Judaism…

 

Britain    00:11:15

That didn’t come until a little bit later, I think.

 

Cole    00:11:17

 Okay. This is like bef, like Pre-Christianity, then this is like ancient Roman. Okay. 

 

Britain    00:11:22   

I even read, from what, sss, I’ve interpreted, that Pope Boniface the fourth was the one that wanted to Christianize everything and I think that’s around the seventh century. Okay. So where are we at? Like 609 A.D. So, um, in an effort to steal the day away from the Pagan, he declared November 1st, all saints day. And I think it, that was official May 13th, 609 A.D. And so Pope Boniface wanted to be the guy who Christianized the festival, you know, making it more, less pagan ish and more of kind of his thing. So after the Romans invaded, eh, you know, hundreds of years later on the intermingling of the two, you have this, you know, bony face dude, come in. I don’t know if that’s really how you pronounce it, but that’s an, I’m calling him the only face I heard it in the bony face.

 

Cole    00:12:15   

Yeah. That’s what I heard in that video.

 

Britain    00:12:18

Hilarious.

 

Cole    00:12:19

I don’t think… Yeah. It’s supposed to be pronounced though or something.

 

Britain    00:12:22

Yeah Pope Boney Face.

 

Cole    00:12:23

He looked like he had a bony face to.

 

Britain    00:12:24

Yeah punch it, punch him in the face. 

 

Britain    00:12:30   

Um, so at something interesting of note, another name for a Saint is “Hallowed”. That’s pretty bad ass isn’t it?

 

Cole    00:12:37

Hmm.

 

Joel    00:12:39   

That is pretty cool.

 

Britain    00:12:40

Hallowed…. THE HALLOWED. [Laughter]

 

Joel    00:12:44

It makes so much like the iron maiden song makes so much more sense now.

 

Britain    00:12:48

Really?  Which…

 

Joel    00:12:50

Hallowed be thy name.

 

Britain   00:12:51   

Yeah… Yeah. Hallowed be thy name. 

 

Joel    00:12:59   

I never thought that’d be like a reference to the whole, you know, prayer and all that shit.

 

Britain    00:13:05

Yeah. November 1st I think became “All Saints Day” or “All Hallowed, All Hallowed Day” and, respectively, creating October 31st “All Saints Day Eve” or “All Hallowed Day Eve” or “All Hallows day Eve”. That’s where the Halloween kind of started to blend in, you know, how we always make shit easier every year, I guess.

 

Cole    00:13:27

Yeah.

 

Joel    00:13:28

Yeah.

 

Britain    00:13:29

Blend words together, stuff like that. But that’s basically what I know as far as, you know, my brief education on, you know, what the original Samhain stood for as far as the split of the year. And there are different, you know, being in the fourth, of their festivals, they celebrate each year and it being one of the most important ones because it brings in the Celtic new year, you know, and then how also the Romans, when they invaded Britain and England and Europe and all that or whatever. Um, at the time Europe under Emperor Claudius, that’s when the blending of all that started, you know, they, they started to imprint, you know, different traditions with Pomona and the apples and all the different fruits. 

 

Joel    00:14:15

That’s pretty cool.

 

Cole    00:14:15   

Interesting.

 

Britain    00:14:16

Yeah.

 

Cole    00:14:17

I saw that. Um, the reason that like the spookiness comes in is because they believe that during that time, like the, a veil between like the, uh, our dimension and the spirit dimension is like a thinned.

 

Britain    00:14:30

Yeah!

 

Cole    00:14:31

So like more spirits can come in and like, they, they thought that that’s when like, uh, you know, their ancestors and relatives kind of came up from the grave. So like the way that, the reason that like kids go like, you know, house to house, asking for candy, knocking on doors, because, you know, families would set out, uh, stuff from their harvest for their ancestors who, you know, had come back from the dead, I guess, as a spirit form during this time when the veil was thinned. And, uh, I think like kids or people would go door to door, like knocking and like kind of like taking the, uh, the treats from people’s doors or something like something in the vein of that.

 

Britain    00:15:10   

Yes, absolutely. Uh, the spirit and the human realm, uh, believed, um, I guess the barrier between the two to be the most thinnest 

 

Cole    00:15:19   

Yeah. So I wonder like what originated that, like, did someone just pull that out of their ass or do they like that people start noticing like weird shit going on, you know?

 

Britain    00:15:29   

Yeah…. Basically they believed it to be a liminal time. As what it said basically means that the barrier between the human and spirit realm or at its thinnest, um, the living and day co-mingle and return home, if you will. So since the veil is so thin, it allows the spirits to cross, over in our room. Uh, the spirits were called the “AOS SI’”. It’s spelled like somewhere like A. O. I. S.  S. I., but it’s pronounced “EEH-SHEE”. Uh, they were deemed the mischievous and dangerous like spirits or whatever. Um, some actually believed that the she or the spirits that they would entertain, or like try to like give praise or worship to were, you know, tormented and leftover ancient gods from religions that people didn’t worship anymore. 

 

[Sci-Fi Sounds – Theremin]

 

Cole    00:16:24

Okay.

 

Britain    00:16:25

Isn’t that wild?

 

Joel    00:16:26

That is pretty wild!

 

Cole    00:16:27

That is interesting, yeah.

 

Britain    00:16:28   

Yeah. Yeah dude it’s spooky. 

 

Britain    00:16:32   

It was also, um, believed that the spirits, you know, the “AOS SI’” had to be satisfied for the survival of crops and livestock, you know, from, through the winter and everything. So they really had a heavy believing that, you know, if, if they didn’t do this, that, you know, some bad shit was going to happen, their crops wouldn’t survivor a cattle slain or something like that. So the beginning of it…

 

[Inaudible]    00:16:52

 

Britain    00:16:54   

Sorry?

 

Joel    00:16:57

Did they sacrifice children?

 

Britain    00:17:00

Man Um…. 

 

Britain    00:17:04   

Put a pin in that… No put a pin in that honestly, because I have a bit on that. If we have time, I do have a bit on that.

 

Joel    00:17:11

Alright.

 

Britain    00:17:13

For real, put a pen in that. That’s wild that you bring that up. I saved like the sinister ship for last and try to just get to like the most basic, you know, you know what you’re going to see a scratching the surface. Um, but the beginning of the ceremony would be like, um, a candle like lit ceremony or a little vigil or something with everybody would light up the candles and, you know, say a prayer or some kind of offering. Um, they would also put out fruits and drinks outside and that’s when the bonfires, really started to become part of the tradition. And it’s really a huge part of the tradition. And you’re going to see it like plastered. If you start to dig into saw one and the additions of Halloween, like bonfires, are a focal point. It’s where people meet. It’s also brought in a lot of, um, staples to Halloween like bats, why bats are associated with Halloween because when you have a big bonfire, you’re lighting up what, outside, the dark, you’re exposing the nocturnal creatures that normally you don’t see. So bats would really be associated with that time of year and the bonfires, um, but, um.

 

Cole    00:18:21   

They were the annoying cousin that brought in the acoustic liar, started playing songs for everyone.

 

Britain    00:18:28   

Yeah. Dude, we all know what he’s playing. He’s playing wonder wall. 

 

Cole    00:18:33

Exactly.

 

Britain    00:18:34   

The dude bonfires, being, bonfires, being a huge part of it..

 

[Inaudible]

 

Britain    00:18:40   

Uh, what’s that?

 

Joel    00:18:44   

You don’t know how to play Wonderwall. Can you really play guitar?

 

Cole    00:18:48

No.

Britain    00:18:49

No

 

Cole    0018:51

Unless you wonder wall.

 

Britain    00:18:53

And even then you still know how to play it. 

 

Cole    00:18:57   

Yeah. Every time my friend gets drunk at my house, he picks up my acoustic guitar and fucking throws that Capo on and plays Wonderwall. 

 

Britain    00:19:04   

Oh my God. Call me next time.

 

Cole    00:19:06

I have to stop em’ if it’s Scotty.

 

Joel    00:19:09

Of course he does!

 

Britain    00:19:09

Send them outside and send them to my window.

 

Cole    00:19:12

Yeah, Yeah. Throw him out

 

Joel    00:19:14

Bow your head, like, God dammit… not again…

 

[Laughter]

 

Britain    00:19:17

… God. 

 

Britain    00:19:20   

Oh man. Anyways, uh, we were on bonfires,, bonfires, being a huge part of the tradition. Um, they were, uh, mainly to light up or help the spirits find their way as they return home. And, uh, again, they would lay out huge tables of food and drinks to welcome them almost. You know what I mean? So like, uh, people that had died, you know, and I even saw like, um, right early America after the civil war, you know, you had so many dead people and bodies like laying around that… unclaimed and nobody knew who they were. So like, some people would even like take it upon them to try to do, you know, the right thing as far as rituals and pray on them and like, you know, very, the dead do certain things. And they know that that would be a part of it too. Those would be the spirits and stuff on their way home or returning home. And you know, that each year that they would do, they would lay out, you know, an offering for, um, and, and, you know, during the bonfires, too, you know, old parlor games, such as, you know, the bobbing for apples that we mentioned earlier that ties in with the Roman culture of a Pomona, um, you know, they would have old parlor games that really unusual methods and, um, you know, things like dream interpretations, future telling regarding death and marriage, you know, who’s going to get married and stuff. And I forget, they, you know, they would have a certain little game they’d play and, you know, whoever won that game would, you know, they, they said that you’re the next to be married. Simple times man. Yeah. Pretty cool stuff though. You know, I can, I can really envision it, but.

 

Cole    00:20:55   

It seems like their community was way more tightly knit than it is now. Like if everyone, they got like everyone to come together. 

 

Speaker 1    00:21:01   

Well, yeah. You’re not distracted by, you know, globally connecting. You weren’t connected. You were, you were there in the moment, which a balance I believe in, but you know, nature baby to have a balance 

 

Cole    00:21:19   

Because I don’t even like, know my, some of my neighbors that live like, you know, a couple of meters from my house.

 

Britain    00:21:26

Yeah.

 

Cole    00:21:28

And these people are coming here predicting marriage with their people, neighbors and stuff. 

 

Britain    00:21:32   

Well, it’s typically the younger groups, you know, the, the younger folks, it was like how they had parties, you know…

 

Cole    00:21:41

Yeah I get that

 

Britain    00:21:43

I’m sure there was probably some, you know, little Apple cider that was probably sitting now for a while. It would get you jacked.

 

Cole    00:21:49

Yeah.

 

Britain    00:21:50

But now that’s basically where the parlor tricks of, you know, Apple bobbing came around, you know, roasting knots was popular. Um, I dunno what the hell pouring egg whites into water would do, but apparently they used to pour egg whites into water.

 

Cole    00:22:06

It taste like shit…

 

Britain    00:22:07

Yeah fuck all that. Um, but you know how, like you would throw the, the ghost sheet on

 

Cole    00:22:15

Oh yeah.

 

Britain    00:22:16

To like you know, you know, cut the holes in or whatever that actually came from like winding sheets or sheets that you would throw over dead bodies, you know, to cover them up. So you’re like, you’re literally, yeah. Not only trying to be the ghost it’s like directly related to death. 

 

Cole    00:22:35   

So you started that one.

 

Britain    00:22:36

I think that goes back into probably the pre or excuse me, post-civil war stuff. You know, there’s a lot of deaths you’ve gotta cover it. Um, you know, the headline or process, I guess, to it, to properly, I’ll say it dispose of a body, but they’ll try to do it ritualistically to where they in all fits their social norms or Morales or whatever they call those mores or something. I forget. But the Boni…, uh, the bonfires, dude definitely seem to be a massive part of that. And, uh, when we touched on the bats already, which I thought was cool, I didn’t really think of that. They didn’t really have like a fucking flashlight or anything new. They kind of just, HEY LOOK A BAT! Some of the first times that the ancient Celtic people actually got a good look at a bat.

 

Cole    00:23:30   

Yeah bats are creepy too.

 

Joel    00:23:33

I believe that.

 

Britain    00:23:34   

And that’s when the first person got the Wu Han. 

 

Cole    00:23:38   

Yeah. This is where coronavirus started. 

 

Britain    00:23:41   

Yeah. Thank you, Sam.  (Samhain) I think, uh, the, the, witches got the worst of it though, they got the worst of the worst, uh, black cats, brooms, all that stuff was brought in the spotlight, um, during a w-like the witch trial era, but witches, as a staple, as far as like a symbol, you know, they definitely got the worst. Did they were literally burned at the stake.

 

Cole    00:24:05

Oh yeah.

 

Britain    00:24:06

So you can’t have, you know, a Samhain festival without talking about witches.

 

Joel    00:24:12 

Yeah, but did you see, or listen to… what the fuck was that? I’m trying to remember the dude’s name, but there was some research found that basically suggests that the people in that community at that time, like in Salem and stuff, [Mhm] we’re in, and we’re ingesting a form of lysergic acid. So they there’s all this research that goes, but there’s a new book that came out recently, um, from some guy who was studying Ayahuasca and other stuff, but I’ll put the name in the show notes and all that just for reference. Um, but yeah, so basically they were showing how like lysergic acid and others, you know, other psychedelic compounds have been in history since, you know, as far as we know, at least 6,000 years BCE. So [Interesting] And one of the things they found was the people that were living in like the Salem, um, area for like the witch trials and all that there is, I don’t remember exactly how they found the data, but there was really, really high levels of suggestion that there was lysergic acid and a lot of these older, old communities that weren’t really into the naturalist portion, such as like, you know, native American stuff, some South Americans, and ate acid. I mean, they ate mushrooms, sorry. I correct that in Ayahuasca and stuff, but a lot of these kind of like Western Puritans would essentially make a juice or wine or alcohol or with a psychedelic compound. And so long story short, there’s just evidence that suggests that they were basically tripping during this time, which very well could have attributed to their irrational thinking. 

 

Britain    00:26:03   

Yeah. I’ve always taken the approach that the witches themselves were not what they said they were. Um, I, I choose to believe that, witches where probably your, um, what, what I would say modern day, like astrologers, healers, or even like, um, herbal, herbal and flu- enthusiasts, like doing like healing crystals and stuff like that. Like the different abstract ways of healing yourself and like thought preservation and things like that, I think were probably what they considered, “witches”, you know, it’s even more so prevalent now that we see that people are, they don’t like things that aren’t like them. And I think that was pretty much that in a nutshell, I mean, they, they were do things a little more abstract than normal for the times, and they didn’t like that. So…

 

Cole    00:26:55   

So you’re saying that every basic white girl on Instagram would be burned at the stake?

 

Britain    00:26:59   

Dude. I mean a lot of them, yeah. I mean, I don’t know nowadays you have people that just, you know, see and want to do. Everybody’s like, uh, like a repeater box or something, you know, like there’s no substance there just on the outside. You’re this is bullshit image, but really on the inside, you really have no idea what you want. You secretly hate yourself. You know what I mean? I mean, I’ve been there, but you know, you reinvent yourself and create, you know, something like that. But I, yeah, I think that, you know, some of the people right now that I know that do you know, Tarot card readings, or that may dive into the occult, you know, those are the people that are probably persecuted in the time burned at the stake, you know, for no damn reason, nothing. I mean, unless you’re out there, you know, trying to put a spell on somebody, then, you know, maybe I deserve it. Maybe they don’t, you know, who am I to say that?

 

Cole    00:27:50

Yeah.

 

Britain    00:27:51

But to eat a bunch of acid and go and burn some people at the stake, because you’re scared. It seems to be a little weird. I don’t know. I, I do think the, witches definitely got the worst of that. Um, I don’t know.

 

Britain    00:28:12   

Yeah. Trick or treating and the costumes and all that. You could, you could tie that back into the Aos Si’ you know, you would, uh, dress up so the dead wouldn’t recognize you or whatever. So that’s kind of how the costumes came about. Uh, also the door to door knocking in those costumes was probably early on. They were like, I’m praying with, with peoples and their neighbors. And they would have like, I guess the table set up with different, you know, food and offerings and stuff like that. And I would assume that since costumes were being worn, there’d be some sort of show or some color, some sorta like scary display of some sort, and your reward would prowl your treat, you know, would probably be some sort of spice cake or something like that. And some drinks of some sort, you know, for your trick, your trick being your costume, or your scare or something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think that was called gazing or something like that. I’m probably butchering it, but 

 

Joel    00:29:13   

Makes sense. Yeah. 

 

Britain    00:29:16   

Pretty cool. Shit. The scrying, through mirrors though. Seen, it seemed to be a dangerous form of witchcraft that I didn’t really dive much into, but I want to.

 

Cole    00:29:29   

Yeah.

 

Britain    00:29:30

You ever heard of scrying, before? I had not.

 

Cole    00:29:31

Yeah. You think you can get us to that so people don’t use drop or do you think they thought that like S like shit got weird when they looked in the mirrors or something?

 

Britain    00:29:40

I think when you pray on the innocent, like that, it brings a certain sort of negativity or vibration that may, that may bring on or awaken, or, you know, put some sort of negative vibrational back into you being the spirit that people think you get possessed or haunted by. I think it does something to you. I mean, I don’t think it’s good for you. I think, you know, spying on somebody that’s innocent that doesn’t know that you’re doing it is a negative reaction. And I think what you put out, you get so.

 

Cole    00:30:17   

Right. I think people are doing, like, people are doing something that’s like a moral and they know what they’re like, but they’re doing it wrong. It’s probably just, you know, it gives them a bad feeling, you know, unless they’re a sociopath, but it’s a whole different thing. 

 

Britain    00:30:31   

I think that’s why they say a dangerous form of witchcraft, because I think there are not dangerous forms of witchcraft. I think there are negative and positive forms. I think there are things, you know, and that’s why I’m kind of to the point where I think that the witches weren’t always bad. I think they may have just, you know, not have agreed with the, the prominent, rich white dude, uh, eaten all the Acid. 

 

Cole    00:30:53

Yeah.

 

Joel    00:30:54   

Have you actually looked at like other cultures, like look at the Sumerians? And that was the exact thing like the entire Necronomicon is basically going into where homeboy, I can’t remember his name once again, show notes, but basically homeboy was practicing and you go through like these various stages in alchemy under the Samarian kind of rule, I guess we’ll say theology and you go through phases and they would basically represent every moon or planet that they were aware of as kind of the most advanced phase. So like you would learn that, learn this spell in alchemy, and you would have the powers of the moon, which in Sumerian was [Nanna] or what they said, “Sin”. So that’s where the word Sin derives from is the goddess [Nanna] in Sumerian theology. And then you just keep on going up, like Marduk was Mars, I think. And he’s the one that like actually killed Cthulhu, Cthulhu, however you want to say it, but yeah, basically the whole Necronomicon is based on this guy who kept on advancing the different phases of these different kind of alchemy type spells and I want to say he went past the Marduk phase and essentially because he was a mortal, um, he did not have the ability to really take that effectively. So it made him bat-shit crazy in sense or well crazy and irresponsible and just ineffective overall to point where he couldn’t control kind of his powers and the spells he was doing and what-not. So it released the [OWNS] who were the ancient ones who hated the humans. And that’s why like Marduk, um, you know, Thoth and all that stuff come from is where they defeated the [Owns] and what-not. And, um, yeah, what happened was he did it irresponsibly and he lit the portal loose. That’s what Evil Dead II. And Evil Dead is based off of, and it opened up this portal, allowing the [owns] and the ancient evil ones that hated humans to enter the world again. And that’s what made him mad. So that’s essentially the entire Necronomicon. 

 

Britain    00:33:24   

That’s super cool.

 

Cole    00:33:25

Hmm. That’s interesting. 

 

Joel    00:33:28   

But, in the old and religion to it, my point was that that was just a random rant, was that if you used it properly and without malice or, you know, we’re responsible about it and we’re careful, and you’ve progressed through the steps as you’re supposed to and into the next phases, into, you know, advance, essentially, if you did it properly and wistful control, everything is fine. But if you’re trying to skip ahead or, you know, do it quick or anything like that, all shit, hell can wreak havoc in one night. And you have the outcomes such as what happened to the guy in the Necronomicon. 

 

Cole    00:34:10   

Yeah. I feel like, yeah. I feel like if you don’t know what you’re doing and you’re like, you know, mess around with like the spirit world, even something like as simple as Ouija board, you’re definitely messing with like, uh, I don’t know. I feel like dark powers almost. I don’t want to sound superstitious, but you know.

 

Joel    00:34:25

Yeah

 

Cole    00:34:26

There’s only been stories of like people and like people like are messing around with tarot cards at like a party is like a party trick. We don’t really know what they’re doing. And then, you know, they, they read someone’s Tara card then like, that person has like insane, um, sleep. Is it sleep paralysis? Like when you see like figures above your bed or something?

 

Joel    00:34:44

Yeah.

 

Cole    00:34:46

Yeah. It has been stories where like, people would get like insane sleep paralysis and like really like weird paranormal things like happening in their house, like after the tarot card reading and stuff. But I feel like someone who’s like knows what they’re doing and practices that stuff all the time and, you know, wants to use it for good, not to just mess around with like another room, you know, you know, it’s definitely safer that way, if that makes sense. 

 

Joel    00:35:08   

Yeah. I mean, it’s kind of like even the whole, um, like old school sense or, you know, the sense that everything’s on, like vibrational or, you know, thousands or millions of years of just shit, that’s reoccurring, you know, they say like in physical health and stuff, um, for instance, like bioenergetics breath and stuff like that, if you’re holding internal pain or emotional pain or something you never dealt with or anything like that, then you’re basically keeping it contracted in your central nervous system. And if you don’t take the time, you know, um, to practice it, to get it out and to stretch that out to where it’s not there anymore, the, my logic is what I’m saying is it applies to those type of vibrations would be like a Ouija board or you’re some trying to specifically some in the fucking devil, you know, you’re putting these ancient vibrations out there that have occurred thousands, if not millions of times throughout history that you’re almost essentially conjuring up those vibes or whatever is associated or correlated with that in doing so, you know, irresponsibly. 

 

Cole    00:36:17   

Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.

 

Britain    00:36:19

I am a firm believer that, that Ouija board, is some bad shit, dude. It’s got some bad Juju with it, for sure.

 

Cole    00:36:30

Oh yeah. I mean, you’re literally just like messing around with like, you know, dark powers. If you want to call it that.

 

Britain    00:36:37

Isn’t the most like common question that comes through, “will you let me in?” 

 

[ARE YOU THERE – Spooky Sample]

 

Joel    00:36:46   

Nope! Not today, sir.

 

Britain    00:36:49   

That’s what I’ve heard.

 

Cole    00:36:50

Yeah, Nope. I’ve never messed with the Ouija board, but I’ve always been interested in, I don’t know, like paranormal stuff and like, you know, bullied in it. So I’ve always thought like, you know, when you mess around with, when you’re like going around, like, you know, asking for a trouble, you know, you’ll get it essentially.

 

Britain    00:37:08

Yeah, oh yeah. I don’t like any of that bad energy man. Uh, honestly, uh, harmony has been burning Sage since we’ve been recording this podcast and she’s actually placing our black tourmaline in all the corners of the house.

 

Cole    00:37:22

Really?

 

Britain    00:37:23

The four corners, yeah to create a grid of a black tourmaline energy healing. I mean, we get into that dude. It’s what I do. You don’t like it. I mean, go ahead. Knock it. I dare yah.

 

Cole    00:37:33

Dude. I think I’m summoning something right now. Because I’ve got a candle lit like blue Christmas lights, all the lights off and I’m looking at a fucking death metal poster right now.

 

Joel    00:37:43

Hah!

 

Britain    00:37:44

You might be summoning some bad juju.

 

Cole    00:37:46

Yeah, Dude if I, yeah…

 

Britain    00:37:47

But I don’t know. You said you got what? Blue lights.

 

Cole    00:37:49

Yeah, Blue lights, or at least they’re not like red or…

 

Britain    00:37:53

Yeah, blue is cool. That’s high vibration, you know? 

 

Joel    00:37:56   

Well, I think it’s safe to say that I’m pretty sure I don’t have bad juju, but I do get some voodoo shit around here. So I always, every time I go to New Orleans, like, like something I keep, I keep a voodoo doll for good luck in my car that I bought from new Orleans.

 

Britain    00:38:14

Man.

 

Joel    00:38:16

I don’t know man that shit never really has affected me that much. I’m just kind of accept it. If it does happen. I’m just like, well, common demon today. Oh, well.

 

Cole    00:38:26

[Laughter]

 

Britain    00:38:26   

Yeah. I mean, I suppose go with the flow. Right?

 

Cole    00:38:29

Just admit you’re a demon.

 

Britain    00:38:33

Have you guys, um, staying on topic with, uh, Samhain here, have you guys heard of it about how the Jack-O-Lantern came around?

 

Cole    00:38:43

Yes. But you can tell the story better than me. I’m sure.

 

Joel    00:38:46

Yeah you can go on and refresh because I don’t remember fully.

 

Joel    00:38:50

So Cole, are, i-. Let’s make sure we’re talking about the same story here, cause I’m sure there’s a bunch of different ones, but basically about stingy Jack and his little…

 

Cole    00:39:00

Yeah. And the devil. [Yeah… yeah]

 

Britain    00:39:02

Yes, sir… Okay….All right. So stingy Jack, dude, he invites the devil out for a drink and the devil has a good time and he wants a second drink with Jack. So Jack, you know, he kind of, he pony, ponies out. It goes… Ponies up and he goes back out there with him. He doesn’t really want to pay. So he tries to convince the devil to turn himself into coins. So that way he can get him more drinks. But the second he turns in the coins, Jack stuffs them in his pouch quickly and then put him in his pocket next. Or he put em the coins in a pouch next to a silver cross so that the devil couldn’t go anywhere. He was, you know, he was rendered useless with the silver cross, the crucifix, um, Jack made the devil promise to leave him alone for an entire year and not to damn his soul. If he let him change back. And the devil agreed. So, so then Jack goes on, you know, a year and doesn’t have any, you know, more run-ins or, and, and he’s not damned, you know, he’s able to have some success in his life, but then after that year, the devil comes back around Jack, then trick the devil again, and the climbing a tree with a crucifix carved into it. Jack then told him to leave him alone for a decade. And he would allow him to come back down. Devil is frustrated at this time. He’s super pissed. He got him twice, but he honored his word after, uh, after Jack lets him down the devil doesn’t damn him and the devil doesn’t bother him for an entire decade. God, at this point is super pissed at Jack for all of his mischief. So he then rejects his access to heaven. So when Jack dies, have already pissed off the devil and no access to hell and through his mischief and his taunting and his belittling and childlike play that he did towards the devil is not allowed in heaven. He is only given, but one gift from the devil and that is a coal, a single burning coal. Because he’s stuck in the darkness to wander around with. And that’s always guessed. So he grabs a nearby turnip, carves, a hole in it and places this coal inside of it to create a lantern. And, um, that’s where the story comes. You know, he’s, he ends up being “Jack of lanterns” or “The Jack of lanterns” and they shorten it to “Jack-o-lantern”. It doesn’t become a pumpkin until later on when the traditions of Samhain become Americanized, because I don’t even think that, hell when was it that the squash even made it over to England? You know, they had turnips then. So, um, the, the pumpkin and all the, the candle and the pumpkin was popularized in and America. But you know, then when it started, you know, with the tale, it was always a turnip or something like that, one of those vegetables.

 

Britain    00:42:36

But I found that to be quite the story, you know, kind of taunting the devil, getting, getting banished from hell, you know, God kind of turning his shoulder to you and not allowing you access to heaven and you’re left there in the darkness…

 

Cole    00:42:51

That’s wild, yeah.

 

Britain    00:42:52

…to wander around with, with a single coal.

 

Cole    00:42:57

That’s not very nice. 

 

Britain    00:43:00   

Well, don’t drink, dude.

Cole    00:43:02

Yeah. Moral of the story. 

 

Britain    00:43:03   

Devil wanted a drink and he got more than he bargained for. 

 

Cole    00:43:07   

Yeah. 

 

Britain    00:43:09   

All right. So I guess, um, Joel, did you want to get a little deeper here? 

 

Joel    00:43:15   

Yeah. Yeah. I don’t really know much about that. Aside from what you just told me about an inch is pretty straight forward.

 

Britain    00:43:23   

Well, earlier, you did mention something about, do they sacrifice, well, some tales may suggest that offerings or sacrifices were made and in these particular tales, um, the “Lebor Gabála Érenn” or “The book of invasions”.

 

Joel    00:43:44

Or the liberals…

 

Britain    00:43:45

Or the liberals. Yeah. [Laughter] But in The Book of Invasions, the people of Nemed, had to give two thirds of their children, their corn, and their milk to the monstrous Famorians. 

 

Joel    00:43:58   

That’s a lot of fucking kids.

 

Britain    00:44:02

What if you only have one?  [Laughter] Do you get, do you cut the child up into two thirds and give it to them. I mean, that’s awful to say, I’m sorry.

 

Joel    00:44:12  

Is this like on a yearly basis? Like, How in the hell would they survive…

 

Britain    00:44:17   

I don’t know. This is from, this is from a book. So who knows. Who are the Fomorians, better yet? 

 

Cole    00:44:27   

Fomorians?

 

Britain    00:44:28   

Yeah. The Fomorians seemed to represent the harmful or destructive powers of nature, chaos, darkness, death, blight, drought. So basically it was a sacrifice. It wasn’t like a particular person or group of people.

 

Cole    00:44:41

Do you think it’s just like a superstitious then? 

 

Britain    00:44:43   

Yeah. That’s what it seems like. Yeah. Uh, this tribute paid by the Nemeds people may represent a sacrifice offered at the beginning of winter when the powers of darkness and blight are in the ascendant, according to the latter and I see and a book called “The Annals of Four Masters”, which were written by Christian Monks. Samhain and ancient Ireland was associated with a God or idol called “Crom Cruach”. The texts claim that a firstborn child would be sacrificed at the stone idol of Crumb and “Magh Slécht”. These are, I guess, um, particular locations in a particular town or city, they say that King Tigernmas or “Tigernmas”, the three fourths of his people died while worshiping, um, this particular place or this particular God “Crom”. Yeah dude pretty deep.

 

Cole    00:45:44

Damn.

 

Britain    00:45:48

Pretty deep.

 

Joel    00:45:50

Yeah. It’s pretty wild.

 

Cole    00:45:51

So is that a like, is that all like speculation or they’re like records of, uh, 

 

Britain    00:45:55   

Those are, yeah, those are like tails and books. So you can actually look these books up and read them and like actually go into depth on that story. And there’s apparently a bunch, it seems like, you know, each different, you know, you know religious sect or area, you know, has one, you know, like each different mythology, if you will, as kind of like their own tales of, of traditions and, and deeds that are, that happen on, um, saw one and they all seem to have, you know, they all seem to carry that same vibe of, you know, uh, dead and, you know, killing people or, you know, rituals, uh, definitely offerings. And, um, it’s weird how they all seem to have kind of the similar thing. 

 

Cole    00:46:43   

Yeah.

 

Joel    00:46:47

Yeah… Cause humans are crazy.

 

Britain    00:46:48   

Which would… do what now? 

 

Joel    00:46:51   

Because humans are crazy.

Britain    00:46:55

Oh, hell yeah. Dude.

 

Joel    00:46:56

You ever see that footage where Alex Jones like busted into the Bohemian Grove thing?

 

Britain    00:47:02

Yes. Yes I have

 

Cole    00:47:02

Yes. Have you ever seen him explaining it?

 

Britain    00:47:07   

I don’t know if I’ve… No, I haven’t. I’ve just seen like little snippets of like the craziness. It looks like it was taken from an old VHS camera you throw on your shoulder and shit. But I mean, it was a ritual, you know, it’s like these a, what do they call those? Uh, um, Oh shit. I don’t know. There’s these rituals, those elite do I can’t remember what it’s called. It’s probably a good thing. I say it. 

 

Cole    00:47:32   

Yeah. I was watching that one. It was like this one, a rapper has a podcast. It’s not something it’s like Timberland or something, or no, T I, is TI a rapper?

 

Britain    00:47:42

Yeah. Yeah.

 

Cole    00:47:43

Okay. Oh, TI had Alex Jones on his podcast for some reason….

 

Joel    00:47:47

WHAT!

 

Cole    00:47:49

Haha, and Alex Jones and Alex Jones is like explained to a T I the Bohemian Grove thing. And like, TI is like giving them like the weirdest looks it’s so funny. 

 

Joel    00:48:00   

Oh my God I have to heard that. That has to be, that has to be the best interview ever. 

 

Cole    00:48:04   

Yeah, new. It’s hilarious. It’s on YouTube to look up like TI/Alex Jones and it’ll come up. 

 

Joel    00:48:10

Oh my god.

 

Britain    00:48:12

I’ve gotta check that out…

 

Joel    00:48:13   

I met. I met him once. Hes pretty wild. 

 

Cole    00:48:17   

Alex. Mr. Jones. 

 

Joel    00:48:18   

Yeah. Yeah I have a friend that works over at Info Wars. Shout out to Jacob Engle’s. 

 

Britain    00:48:26   

That’s nice. He’s got to come on the pod, bro.

 

Cole    00:48:30

So when, when are we getting Alex on the podcast here?

 

Britain    00:48:33

Ha, yeah right. 

 

Joel    00:48:34   

I’m trying to get Jacob and Tyler to come on. They already agreed to come on, but I, every time I’m like, just tell me a date and a time and I’ll make it work. And I haven’t got word back yet. 

 

Cole    00:48:50

That’d be crazy

 

Britain    00:48:50   

It’s a busy time of the year right now. I think for everybody there’s a lot happening. And I think there’s a lot going to go on this week.

 

Joel    00:48:56   

But yeah. Well, they’ve been in DC, I think the whole last week doing something. 

 

Britain    00:49:04   

Do y’all want to finish this up with any of your own traditions that you like to do or that you’re planning to start, or sometimes you, you want to bring forward to the table before finishing thoughts here. 

 

Cole    00:49:15   

Well, this is a first fear that I’m going to be giving out candy.

 

Joel    00:49:20

Really?

 

Cole    00:49:21

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because the first year I’ve had my house, so it’s a weird.

 

Britain    00:49:26   

I will add. I don’t think we’d get a lot of trick or treaters around here.

 

Cole    00:49:30

Oh yeah?

 

Britain    00:49:31

No, they always say no, they always seem to go on the other neighborhood over.

 

Cole    00:49:35

Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. I was just going to…

 

Britain    00:49:37

So don’t buy a whole lot, but yeah. Get a bowl. But I mean, if you have some, that’d be surprising to me last, you know, four or five years that I’ve been here. I haven’t had much. 

 

Cole    00:49:44   

Yeah. Yeah. There’s this older people.

 

Britain    00:49:49

Yeah. Yeah. We definitely need to get together and do a, do something. Let’s try to partake in some of these festivities. I’ve got some, yeah. I’ve probably got about 10 pumpkins to carve, you know, we can do some, we can do some pumpkin carving or something, but I like to do the whole nine man. Yeah. I try to do the whole nine. I definitely leave a pumpkin out, lit overnight. And I try to do them every night, October. And you know, I watch Halloween movies like crazy, but the traditional ones, man, that the old classics, the John carpenters and, you know, half the time when I watched the ones that have like 12 versions of it, like the Jason there’s like 12 of them, I don’t even watch, but the first one and then go on to something else. What do yall do?

 

Cole    00:50:31   

Yeah, I mean, those are the, usually I’m the same. I watch. We should all, uh, discuss her favorite horror movies. Now that’d be, that’d be fun. 

 

Britain    00:50:39

Ohh.

 

Joel    00:50:40

Yeah, let’s do it!

 

Britain    00:50:41   

I will start it off. And I’m going to go with my number one favorite that I always kick it off with every year. And, and the reason why I’m going to go with a horror or Halloween, um, and not my “Nightmare Before Christmas”. Cause I, I say that’s a Christmas movie, but I’m going to go with a movie called, “Trick r’ Treat”. 

 

Cole    00:51:02   

Hmm. 

 

Joel    00:51:03

That’s pretty good.

 

Britain    00:51:06   

That movie is phenomenal. It’s actually got, I think three or four different storylines going on that all intertwine at the same time, they kind of tie it all in at the end. And it is, actually, about the traditions of Samhain. They intertwine those stories with the yes. Very good movie. If you have not seen it, I recommend watching it like soon.

 

Joel    00:51:30

I saw that movie t’s been years ago and I was on drugs.

 

Britain    00:51:32

Yeah. You need to check it out again. You probably missed a lot of the, you know, the plot and stuff. Cause there’s a lot going on. Like literally all four plot lines are intertwining at a time. 

 

Joel    00:51:43   

So what are the confines? I don’t even know that that’s the right word. What are the constraints let’s go there. What are the constraints of this Halloween movies, horror movies in general? Or does it have to be Halloween? 

 

Cole    00:51:56   

No, just like horror movies. I was, I was talking to this person.

 

Britain    00:51:59   

Yeah. Like whatever you consider to be festive time of the year for you that you would want. I mean really any Gore horror movie would count. So throw out your favorite. They’re mine this time of year would be trick or treat. 

 

Joel    00:52:15   

I like it. Where are you guys going to have to give me a second. Cause that’s a hard decision for me to make. 

 

Britain    00:52:20   

Oh, I know. I know how many movies you have. I could imagine. Joel… or Cole you’re gonna have to go next.

 

Cole    00:52:25   

Yeah.  Uh, I, I probably just had to say Halloween, honestly.

 

Britain    00:52:29   

The original John Carpenter.

 

Cole    00:52:31

Yeah.

 

Britain    00:52:32

My man. 

 

Cole    00:52:32   

No, there’s, there’s something about it. There’s just a vibe about that movie.

 

Britain    00:52:36

You know what it is?

 

Cole    00:52:37   

What?

 

Britain    00:52:40   

It’s the original pumpkin and the original jack-o-lantern look, you know what I mean? It’s the pumpkins in every single scene. Plus, it was the very first movie about Halloween. There were no other scary movies. Like it, there were no other, you know, and I think John Carpenter even says, you know, one of the guys that worked on the film with him came to him, you know, when the filmography is or something came to him was like, you know, nobody has made a movie like, uh, just about Halloween like this. And that’s where he came up with. The name was like, you know what, you’re right. I don’t want you to think of this years ago, I call it the Halloween. But there’s literally like pumpkins in every scene and it’s just got that. And it’s also, it started to make Halloween in America for adults. You know, it. Started that, you know, opposite into sexy almost, you know, you can wear sexy costumes and stuff, but then you go on, you watch the gory scary, crazy movie before you take off the costumes, if you will.

 

Cole    00:53:40

Yeah dude. It’s funny too, because the, I think the story’s supposed to be taking place in Illinois, but they obviously filmed it in California. So all the trees are still green. Uh, you know, it’s just kind of funny.

 

Britain    00:53:53

Eh thanks for ruining it for me. I didn’t notice this.

 

Cole    00:53:58

Yeah, I never noticed, Oh my God. Yeah, I do. I love that movie. Like this soundtrack. I love like old eighties, like a horror movie soundtrack. 

 

Joel    00:54:05   

Well, that entire score was written by him by John Carpenter while he was, and it’s actually has like, is it the, um, Western Kentucky University symphony, like the entire, uh, band for those first scores, it was movies like that. And the fog and stuff was all from Western Kentucky University. Cause that’s where he grew up. That’s where he went to school at.

 

Britain    00:54:28   

Shout out W.K.U.

 

Cole    00:54:31

Yeah I didn’t know that. That is cool. 

 

Britain    00:54:34

Alright, Joel, You are up brother!

 

Speaker 2    00:54:35

Man. I’m, I’m actually going to throw a couple out in genres.

 

Britain    00:54:40

Do it, do it, yea lay it out for us.

 

Joel    00:54:

So, zombie movie, I’m going to go with the “Dead Next Door” because it’s just absolutely ridiculous. And it has Devin was, um, Bruce Campbell. And let’s see for, we’ll just say non-American horror. I’m gonna go with, um, “Audition” from, um, God, I can’t even say his name, but, um, [MECASA] Miyaki or something like that. He’s saying that at wrote, “Ichi the killer”, but “Audition”, have you ever seen it was a proof fucked up crazy movie. Um, and then like just old-school, you know, traditional eighties or eighties, seventies, horror movie. I’m gonna go with types of Halloween, I don’t know maybe the Phantasm movies. Those are pretty, those are pretty neat and they’re cheesy, but they’re good. 

 

Cole    00:55:44   

Hmm. I’m going to be honest. I’ve never heard of any of those. 

 

Joel    00:55:50   

What, so Phantasm is a really, really great like kind of cheesy series. There’s like six of them total, but the first one came out in the late seventies, um, during that period. And it’s about essentially this other dimension of doors and some guy that runs a cemetery kind of deal. Um, and yeah, it’s pretty cool. The Ichi the killer is really bad as it is essentially like a antihero superhero and it’s this little Asian dude. And um, I dunno how to explain it otherwise. And he’s like this little shy guy that gets contracted to kill people, but like the opening credits of the movie have him like jerking off outside of this prostitute’s house. And then the jizz hits the ground and it comes. And then the name ichi, the killer comes out of his Jizz. And it’s just like the most violent Japanese horror movie you may ever see, or I’m sorry. I was talking about auditioning, but audition. Yeah. It’s about this girl who tries out for a, um, to be on TV or something like that for a news channel, she gets rejected. And the guy who runs it keeps saying he’s in the call her back and he never does. So she gets all psycho and ends up kidnapping him and doing some really, really fucked up shit to him. 

 

Britain    00:57:11   

Yeah. I’m gonna take it. Uh, I’m gonna take it a little left field here. And I’ve recently sat down with harmony and watched every single Twilight movie. And I have to say that those fucking movies are actually pretty good. I enjoyed myself thoroughly watching that with her.

 

Cole    00:57:33

I’ve never seen them.

 

Britain    00:57:34

Dude. I had like watched, I think the first one way back when it was like, man, but then watching them with her, I actually sat down and like when she would kind of like tell me some things here and there, like the ship was legit, it was action packed enough. And I mean, there’s, I don’t know, Joel, I think you’d probably get into if you hadn’t seen them, especially now getting into those sappy anime’s and shit. 

 

Joel    00:58:00   

My, uh, my ex girl, I don’t know. I don’t know what you want to call her. My ex-girlfriend is when I’m in the call her right now. Um, but I saw them with her and I mean, they’re not horrible. They’re not good, but they’re not horrible. I guess. Like I compared the, that series too. Like I like true blood, but is true blood. Good? Not really…

 

Britain    00:58:25

I didn’t like true blood.

 

Joel    00:58:27

It’s still enjoyable. 

 

Britain    00:58:30   

Sorry. True blood fans. Well, uh, what about, um, I mean, I like Candyman of course, all the classics, like “A Nightmare on Elm Street” and “Friday the 13th”. Those are good. Of course.

 

Cole    00:58:47

Texas chainsaw massacre is up there too though. 

 

Joel    00:58:50   

Yeah. Ah, all right. So y’all, I’m canceling because this is our culture. We cancel shit. I’m canceling all my choices that I’m going with Texas Chainsaw massacre II.

 

Britain    00:59:02

Number two.

 

Joel    00:59:04

Yeah, Just cuz’ uh…

 

Britain    00:59:04

Dude…

 

Joel    00:59:06

Also as a preface, the movie came out around the same time as the breakfast club, I think, but their promotional posters, the Toby Hooper made all the characters from Texas chainsaw massacre to set themselves up. Exactly like breakfast club, um, kids are on their poster. So I actually have those posters side by side next to me right now. So yeah that is cool. 

 

Britain    00:59

That’s funny… You know what I saw earlier? I saw that the soup characters in Jurassic park were wearing like the same clothes as the Goonies go back and look for it. You’ll see. 

 

Joel    00:59:42   

All right. Um, and then you guys watched the HP Lovecraft series at all on, is it Hulu?

 

Britain    00:59:54

I have not, what’s it called?

 

Joel    00:59:56

It’s called Lovecraft and some type of like, uh, uh, American horror story style series, but it’s based off HP Lovecraft. I know it’s called Lovecraft. 

 

Cole    01:00:06   

No, I haven’t seen that.

 

Britain    01:00:09

I have not either. I will look into that. 

 

Joel    01:00:11   

Yeah. Um, real quick. I know we’re here, we’re at an hour real quick, but just real quick, five minutes. Have you guys seen this shit about homeboy? Um, who was like in business with Hunter Biden, and now he’s going before the Senate tomorrow and he’s going to be a guest for tonight’s debate. What’s his name? Bob bullet. She her own. And I’m pulling them up. Tony Babulinsky. 

 

Britain    01:00:45   

I read some, uh, stuff briefly either, um, late yesterday or earlier today about it, but I haven’t gone into that. I haven’t been able to. 

 

Joel    01:00:54   

So a super high level, um, Hunter Biden’s ex business partner’s associate, and I believe double checking right now. Um, but they have like all these ties to like Ukrainian and Chinese business people and stuff like that. And they found that he’s testifying, that he has apparently like three cell phones that have text messages that directly, you know, show that Joe Biden was in business with the Hunters partners and like the Ukraine and China and stuff like that.

 

Britain    01:01:32   

I saw as that he was getting some scrapings for the Biden, name. I saw that some money was coming 

 

Joel    01:01:41   

A bunch of dealings in China involving both Hunter Biden, and Uncle Jim Biden. And he’s turning over a bunch of phones in the Senate is going to start questioning him tomorrow. And they’re going to start basically figuring out the validity of these text messages in his testimony. And it said that a 10% of the shares in the business, they were all them was going directly to Joe. So all that Russian and Chinese hook shit towards Trump manually. And he just got fucking reamed. 

 

Cole    01:02:22   

So I’ve only seen that stuff from like my friends who are like into like conspiracy or like, you know, conspiracy, subreddit. And then I also read something that said like CNN wasn’t made a statement. So they weren’t like reporting on it because they said it like, quote unquote, wasn’t relevant to the election or something of that. 

 

Britain    01:02:42   

Yeah. They’re not reporting on it either. I saw which, uh, apparently John Paul Rice, if you guys don’t know and follow him, I’m trying to get him on the pod. John, if you’re listening to this, don’t forget. Don’t forget about us. Um, beard and brain, but now he’s, uh, he’s sharing all sorts of lengths about it, man. Uh, these, these people that have apparently been in the media, reaching out to him directly. So, you know, we’ll see how it shakes out. You said it’s, uh, he’s going to be a guest on the debate. 

 

Speaker 2    01:03:15   

Yeah. And tonight like fucking Trump specifically, I guess that tonight’s debate.

 

Britain    01:03:22

What time is that?

 

Joel    01:03:25

I think now

 

Britain    01:03:27

Ooopsies…

 

Joel    01:03:30

I think it’s either eight or nine, but… 

 

Britain    01:03:34   

Well, yeah, it’s gotta be interesting. See how that pans out in court. 

 

Joel    01:03:39   

Remember the drinking game for the night while Britain doesn’t drink. So every time you hear Biden, say, come on, man, you have to drink one or you’re a whore Jarritos things.

 

Britain    01:03:52

Oh yeah. That’d be awesome. 

 

Cole    01:03:53   

Come on, man.

 

Britain    00:01:03:56

That’d be awesome.

 

Joel    01:03:58

Come on man.

 

Cole    01:03:59

I love the memes where it’s like Trump saying something, then it’s just drove by and saying like, shut up, man. 

 

Britain    01:04:04   

That was hilarious when he told him to shut up. That was so funny, dude. I saw something or like social media, like super follows, like who you like as far as, you know, they’re, they’re polling, like who, who likes what? And then like there’s all these little new fads where it’s like go to your Facebook page and you know, see who, who likes Joe Biden and then see who likes Trump? Well, I went in there and liked both of them. So I’m going to be like that one statistic that likes both. People be like this fuck over here. I don’t know. I just want to skew the statistics a little bit. Just to be a Dick 

 

Cole    01:04:44   

So stupid though. Cause just because someone like falls a page doesn’t mean they like agree with 

 

Britain    01:04:48   

Fuck, no hell no, dude. 

 

Cole    01:04:51   

I follow the official flat earth society group just because it’s absolutely hilarious. 

 

Britain    01:04:58   

Yeah, dude. I mean, it’s okay to like, you know, what do they say? What’s the knuckle roll? Just like with your finger. Never mind. We’ll get into that… Never mind.

 

Joel    01:05:09   

No, no. Like I’m only watching tonight’s debate just to see if anyone brings up Biden’s gun control plan. Cause that shit fucking insane. 

 

Britain    01:05:26   

Yeah, I’ll probably watch it.

 

Joel    01:05:28   

And anybody in the rust belt, but yeah. I mean he’s like just basically like we’re abandoning everything. You can’t even buy a grip online if you want to. 

 

Britain    01:05:40   

Oh, the Richie’s are not liking his tax plan. 50 cent out there. He, he, with that noise is he, he don’t want that tax noise. I don’t want to pay any taxes. None! We get no love!

 

Joel    01:05:55   

And when people don’t realize too is like, he is technically raising our taxes as well. Um, because you can just like, you can’t just choose the highest bracket and say, Oh, you’re going to be at this level. Every single level has to be in a B you know, advance incrementally. So I forget the numbers of it. I was looking at them earlier today, but it’s basically like a, uh, between like 0.5 and 1.5 decimal increase for every bracket in the Texas tax code. So yes, your taxes will be raised if you only make $10,000 a year.

 

Cole    01:06:34

That’s all I need. You know, I watched this one YouTube videos, like Biden, it was like at some factory, I don’t know, like a lot of like blue collar workers. And they were asking me about like his, uh, gun control laws. And he was like, yeah, I’m going to take away your AR fourteens. The guy’s like, you don’t even know what the fuck they’re called. He’s like…

 

Britain    01:06:53   

AR 14. 

 

Joel    01:06:55   

What part of his gun controls thing is you’re only allowed to hunt with three shells. First of all, shells means like, what, are we going to go shoot pheasants and shit. Some burrs and quail is fucking Dick Cheney going to guide us on a hunting trip. 

 

Britain    01:07:12   

God hope not get shot in the FACE!

 

Joel    01:07:16   

So I mean like, what did you hunt with slugs or some shit that’s not illegal now. Like it makes no sense to just point out, you can only go hunting with three shells. And I think like the most bullets you can have is 10 rounds or something. So it means like, I don’t know how that would work with certain hand guns and stuff, because you know, generally they go from seven rounds to 16, 17, whatever you have 20 or so in some cases, 

 

Britain    01:07:47   

I don’t know, I’ll leave it at this. It certainly seems like they’re the Biden, suck so bad. It’s almost like they’re making it, like, Trump’s the only option again. So I don’t know. I’ll just leave it with that.

 

Cole    01:08:05   

I feel like, I feel like most people are thinking like, you know, let’s settle for Biden, even though he, like, we know he sucks, but you know, it’s, a lot of people are saying.

 

Britain    01:08:16   

I would rather just stick with what we got now and kind of ride that out then…

 

Cole    01:08:21

Yeah it’s like insane…

 

Britain    01:08:22

…go with the opposite fucking end halfway through the second thing.

 

Cole    01

Yeah because it’s like insane like most Democrats have like somewhat lenient and drug laws, but Joe Biden’s just like, so blatantly, like, you know, anti-marijuana, it’s like, no, like what? Like, is there anything like redeeming about this too? Like that? 

 

Joel    01:08:37   

Hmm. I mean, I answer anything. I mean, just as simple, you know how bad he in Kamala Harris is, there’s no way I could ever support them. I mean the only thing, 

 

Cole    01:08:56   

Yeah. Didn’t. like Bernie got fucking cheated so hard. Like I don’t even know why he even like Democrats that time of day.

 

Joel    01:09:04

If they would have kept Bernie they would have had a better chance.

 

Cole    01:09:06

They probably would have won. I mean like Bernie was pulling numbers bigger than like Trump and guidance rallies, like both and somehow he didn’t get the nomination. Like it’s so obvious what’s going on.

 

Joel    01:09:17

Right. 

 

Joel    01:09:18   

And this is my thing. Like the only thing that people really have against Trump is just that he says stupid shit on Twitter and honest, you know, interviews. But his actual policy has been pretty legit so far. So I’m down for it. Yeah. It’s either him or Vermin Supreme. 

 

Cole    01:09:37   

Dude, yeah. Ill write in Vermin. 

 

Joel    01:09:42   

Same or Harambe again? Harambe got 15,000 votes. All right. Yeah, we can cut out any of the bullshit.

 

Britain    01:09:54

I still haven’t decided. Ill, probably wait I got timetime.

 

Joel    01:10:00

Go ahead and do your, uh, closing stuff

 

Britain    01:10:02

Hmm?

 

Joel    01:10:05

I said if no one else has anything we can go ahead and close it out.

 

Britain    01:10:09   

Yeah.  I say we go on and wrap this up? Thank you all for joining us and thank you Cole for joining us as well.

 

Cole    01:10:18

Thank you for having me guys.

 

Britain    01:10:20

Yeah, not a problem. And that’s it guys for another episode of beard and brain podcast.

 

Joel    01:10:30

Bye Bitches!!!

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Summary X Show Notes

 

 

J DA UNKNOWN

Facebook:
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YouTube:

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SoundCloud:

     https://m.soundcloud.com/jdaunknown94

Bandcamp:

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Honorable Mentions:

 

Douglas:

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Syko Rich:

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     https://www.instagram.com/sykorich28/

Soundcloud: 

     https://soundcloud.com/syko-rich

 

Ol Skool Danni B. :

YouTube:

     https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCWMb__DHNUd8kT4QY85jTkA?view_as=subscriber

 Bandcamp:

      https://olskooldannib.bandcamp.com/

 

Facebook:

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Instagram:

     @olskooldannib

 

 

 

Transcript

 

 

[INTRO MUSIC]

 

Joel        00:00:48 :

   You’re gold pony boy.

 

Britain    00:00:49 :

  Welcome to Beard and Brain, Podcast where we interview interesting people to talk about interesting things such as how to blend generational gaps and cultural differences and how we, the people together, can create a truly free press. I am your co-hosts. Britain C Griffin along with my other cohost here. Joel Hinton and this is our premier episode, episode, number one.

 

Britain    00:01:16 :

 Happy October, and welcome to Beard and Brains very first episode. Start with a little bit about your hosts here. My name is Britain C Griffin and as a humanoid, I’m an avid free thinker from a small town, just outside of Louisville, Kentucky raised by two hippie self-employed parents. At a young age, I was exposed to all sorts of ideas, people and businesses. As a recovering alcoholic, I am a huge advocate for self-help and the introduction of natural plants into modern medicine. I love nature. 

 

Britain    00:01:49 :

 I spend the majority of my time outside reading, writing, playing, and planting. I love acting a complete full and public, and I mean, a complete fool, which is why I’m rarely allowed to go into the grocery store. As your Beard at cohost. I live for life’s mysteries, hidden knowledge and mind bending theories. I vow to explore deep into the information cosmos and ask those edgy generational and cultural blending questions that weigh heavily on our minds. I met Joel what middle school? He had long hair, long Brown hair. And for what I remember the only kid in school with what seemed to be scruffy Beard people said he seemed to let resemble Jesus. I don’t really remember meeting him. We were always just there. Once our groups of friends started mingling Joel would you like to say anything a little bit to our viewers or our guests about how we met and maybe a little bit about yourself? 

 

Joel    00:02:50 :

  Well, I honestly don’t remember how I met and the only reason I really had long hair and middle school or whatever is because when you do drugs, you don’t groom. Those two things just go hand in hand. Um, I am not Farley near as interesting, but in short, I am an academic and marketing director for a series of radio stations in the Southeast of Florida. And I’m an asshole and yeah, really, I’m just kinda here to, I enjoy talking about complex ideas and, and complex thoughts and whatnot. And I honestly just like to pull, poke holes and to anything that I here and basically, you know, I’m like Steven Crowder has changed my mind all the time. Basically. That’s kind of pretty much how most of my conversations go. Um, but for you of my, I have quite a bit of life experience and pretty cool and interesting, funny stories to share and funny input to share, so that’s why I’m here. And today we’re going to meet talking with Jay the Unknown and then you’ll notice in that very nice fancy intro. We have there, we have the big NPR budget, hence the whole ASMR tone and the beginning of the Podcast. So we have an actual intro song and we are essentially interviewing that artist today. 

 

Britain    00:04:26 :

 Also we will be launching with this episode, our website, social medias, that includes Instagram, Twitter, and a Facebook page. That will be Beardxbrain.com. And that’s coming at you at once this, uh, I guess it’s when you’re hearing this it’ll be live. So stop there for a landing page, uh, for Beard X Brain we’re going to have, uh, blogs. We’ll try to put some content of our own writing, where you guys can get a little bit more insight to our brains. I’ll, I’ll put some pictures and my Beard on there and my else Beard fans, we’ll talk about Beard oil’s and such, but that’s where you’ll be able to find us

 

Joel    00:05:14 :

  (Inaudible)

 

Britain   00:05:17 :

  What’s that Joel?

 

Joel    00:05:19 :

  I’ll share my old glamour Beard photos.

 

Britain    00:05:22  :

 You got to grow it out, man. I’m growing my hair out too. So I’ll be sharing some updates on that this Vikings coming out, Scandinavians coming out. So that’s where we’re going to, that’s where we’re going to be able to be located at we’re going to have her own RSS feed on our own website. And then you’ll also be able to find us on, um, probably Google Podcast and all the leading, uh, you know, audio apps. So hopefully we’ll be able to, yeah, hopefully will be able to slide into your DM’S more or less, or at you’re a frequented Podcast. 

 

Britain    00:06:00  :

 So now that, that shit’s out of the way, boys,  Let’s introduce our guest Jay Da Unknown!

 

   Jay    00:06:08:

   Yo….

 

Britain   00:06:10  :

 Welcome to Beard and Brain my man. 

 

      Jay    00:06:12:

   Yo yo, what’s up. Y’all how are, y’all doing?

 

Britain   00:06:15 :

 Really good, actually… (fart)

 

Joel    00:06:18 :

 Very good, man. It’s enjoying actual fall weather for ones here in Florida. It’s literally only nice for three months out of the year. So we have decent weather…

 

      Jay    00:06:26 :

   Aww man I bet… Man I would rather be down in Florida than Louisville right now to be honest with you

 

Joel    00:06:37 :

 Haha I’m sure I I’m, I’m always mixed. Like I like the summers in Louisville and I like the fall in Louisville. I absolutely hate the cold and the winter

 

      Jay    00:06:46 :   

    Man cold in the winter here in Louisville

 

Britain    00:06:49 :   

 I am 100% on summer

 

      Jay    00:06:50 :   

   Man Louisville’s winters pain, in the ass dog. I would rather be in Florida be by the beach posted go sw-. fishing. You know what I mean? I’ll be doing right now.

 

Joel    00:07:05 :   

 Oh yeah, It is nice. We have a lot of cool shit to do. And you know, there’s a lot of like Springs and stuff. I actually live next to a Springs. So we go out there pretty often.

 

      Jay    00:07:13 :   

   Oh okay, Yeah. I’ve been down there twice. I’ve been down to Panama City, Pensacola though, my favorite Pensacola, man, Pensacola. Beautiful. It’s whole different different vibe out there

 

Joel    00:07:26 :  

 Oh yeah Pensacola is absolutely amazing….. But if you ever make it down to Daytona you’re welcome. You’re welcome here.

 

      Jay    00:07:34 :  

   Hell yeah, man. I appreciate that.

 

Britain   00:07:37 :   

 Absolutely. 

 

Britain    00:07:39 :   

 Well, welcome to Beard and Brain again, this is our very first episode, so it’s a pleasure having you on here, man. And honestly, the intro music that you hear and the outro music that you hear was done by yours, truly our man here. So hit it up 

 

      Jay    00:07:54 :  

   Jaydaunknown Yup

 

      Jay    00:07:55 :   

   You ever needs some beats. Holler at your boy. 

 

Britain    00:07:57 :   

 Why dont you tell our uh yeah why don’t you tell our listeners where they can find you real quick? And then we’ll segway in a little bit about your music, man.  

      Jay    00:08:04 :   

    You guys can, you can find me on YouTube. J….  just J, Da. D.A. Unknown and that goes for Band Camp and for my Sound Cloud, my Instagram. Britain will put all the information down and description. So it would just be easy that way. 

 

Britain    00:08:22 :  

 Yeah, absolutely. That way, if you guys didn’t hear it it’s J. D.A. so this is the letter J Da Unknown and hes uh, on YouTube. That’d be Band Camp. And, uh, again, I will have that all down in the description to make it easy for you guys.

 

      Jay    00:08:37 :   

    For sure.   

 

Britain    00:08:39 :  

 So I’m gonna just ask some basic questions, man. Oh, sorry. Joel go ahead. 

 

Joel    00:08:44 :  

 Well I was gonna, we’ll will edit that out but I was gonna say you can go to BeardXBrain.com/Podcast and get transcripts for all show notes and all shows.

 

Britain    00:08:58 :   

 Excellent. You heard it first there. So Jay uh, you are from here in Louisville, correct?

 

      Jay    00:09:04 :   

   Yeah, born and raised.

 

Britain    00:09:07 :   

 Awesome. Awesome. So you, uh, so you grew up with, um, you know, a music influence, uh, tell me a little bit about where you got that music influence. Exactly.

 

      Jay    00:09:15 :  

   Man it all happened when I was a little kid man. Like I would just like grab some pots and pans and started making my own rhythm and stuff like that. My mom was just like, I’m going to go ahead and put him in violin or something like classes like that. You know what I mean? And I was, I was in violin, Viola, what would that, what would that classroom be? Orchestra, right? Yeah. Orchestra orchestra from like the third grade up to like the sixth grade. And then from there I just stopped playing with music, but I felt like music has always been a THING for me. Like I haven’t really took it serious until, you know, all of this locked down around the viruses such as when I was I’m taking serious. 

 

Britain    00:10:01 :   

 Oh, okay.

 

Joel    00:10:03 :   

 That’s what’s up

 

Britain    00:10:05 :   

 So from…

 

      Jay    00:10:05 :   

    Yeah

 

Britain    00:10:05 :   

 So from an early age, you’ve got that influence from your mom kind of pushing you towards that, which is awesome.

 

      Jay     00:10:10 :  

   Yeah, man

 

Britain    00:10:11:    

 I feel like we all get our starts from our moms. Uh, obviously, you know,

 

      Jay     00:10:17 :   

    Most definitely

 

Britain    00:10:18 :   

 I think I think I think not just literally I’m thinking figuratively mainly here. So, you know, mom’s definitely pushed us to be the men that, you know, they want to see in the world.

 

      Jay    00:10:28 :  

   Right. And my dad…

 

Britain    00:10:30 :  

 You know, pushing you in your art is great.

 

      Jay    00:10:32 :   

    Oh yeah, man. My dad never really did that for…

 

      [Jay cuts out]

 

      [Silence]    00:10:37 

 

      [Womp…womp…womp + crickets]    00:10:40

 

Britain    00:10:40 :   

 Whoop… Jay you there? We, we got some technical difficulties on our first.

 

      [Jay cuts back in]    00:10:46

 

Britain    00:10:47 :   

 Oh, there we go

 

       Jay    00:10:48 :   

    Can you all hear me?

 

Britain    00:10:48 :   

 Coming in and out. Yep. There you are.

 

      Jay    00:10:51 :   

   Can you hear me loud and clear though?

 

Britain    00:10:53 :   

 Yep. Loud and clear boss.

 

      Jay    00:10:55 :   

   Cool, cool.

 

Britain    00:10:55 :  

 Sorry about that.

 

      Jay    00:10:56 :   

   All good.

 

Joel    00:10:58 :   

 Yeah so your saying your dad uh didn’t really support it much or…

 

       Jay    00:11:02 :   

    No, he really did, man. He was, it was just, I don’t know. He was really never like a good male figure in my life. You know what I mean? My mom had to be the dad and mom do. uh do both of those roles for me. So without my mom pushing me, especially to where I am now, man music would have not been a thing for me. I probably would have been doing something else to be quite honest.

 

Joel    00:11:29 :   

 No, that’s completely understood. So when you did the kind of classical training and the first few years, have you, is any of that classical training, like carried over into your music now?

 

       Jay    00:11:39 :   

    You know, like I’ve been wanting to like experiment with that, especially with like violin, Viola, adding some of that noise to my beats. That’s something I’ve been quite interested to do, but I’ll need to invest in an actual instrument to do so. Yeah. And how to like transfer all of those sounds to my digital audio workstation work and see how it works, you know?

 

Joel    00:12:06 :   

 No, definitely. I think it’d be pretty cool.

 

       Jay    00:12:07 :   

   Aw yeah

 

Joel    00:12:08 :   

 Uh, and one thing I really appreciate about, you know, your music, it really, it really fits at a kind of early nineties vibe where we’re like in the middle of like grunge and hip hop, like, and see and what not

 

      Jay    00:12:21 :   

   Aw yeah most definitely especially with the twist of jazz.

 

Joel    00:12:29 :   

 Yeah, no, I dig it a lot. Um, I think it’s, it’s really unique and it’s very appropriately at times because you know, it has that kind of late eighties, early nineties kind of feel and almost has that Sci-fi undertone and now, you know, it very well when I heard what you made for us. It very well could have been like the equivalent, a-like stranger things like theme intro song and kinda deal really dug it.

 

      Jay    00:13:00 :   

    Yeah. Haha.

 

Britain    00:13:03 :   

 I uh gave him like some basic, uh, you know, things we’re going to be talking about on the Podcast down the road. Uh we’ll we’re going to eventually take the Podcast where we’d like to take the Podcast and uh, you know, some, some of our favorite influences and even yours too. I knew that, you know, you like you like uh Behold A Pale Horse.

 

      Jay    00:13:24 :  

   Oh yeah.

 

Britain    00:13:24 :   

 Of course, we are uh…

 

      Jay    00:13:25 :   

    Definitely. That’s the truth right there. I recommend that book to everybody.

 

Britain    00:13:26 :   

 RIP William Cooper……….Yeah go pick up a copy of William Cooper’s behold, a pale horse. Um, and you get to hear him and our intro music every time. And then you get some little scary daddy Bush at the end, talking about his little new world order project that, uh, and I think still influences you know, us today.

 

      Jay    00:13:51 :  

   Most definitely

 

Britain    00:13:52 :   

 So uh I got it. Question for you. Um, you said something about, you know, your mom being your, um, your, you know, both parents, you know, while you were growing up and I kind of vibe with that, not in the sense that my father wasn’t around, but my father worked quite a bit, both of my parents, like I said, own both their own businesses. So mom had the luxury of only having to work about a third of the time and she stayed home with us. And, uh, she did a lot of the disciplining and a lot of the rearing when it came to two boys, you know, me and my brother and my older sister. So, uh, with that being said, I kind of relate to that. Where, where did your influence in the music come from your mom? Like what parts of the music may be? Can we pull out of that being your mom’s influence? I want to dive into that.

 

      Jay    00:14:46 :   

   Oh man, jazz, jazz music, man, jazz.

 

Britain    00:14:49 :   

 Mmm…Tell me more brother. 

 

      Jay    00:14:52 :  

   I grew up on Paul, Paul Hardcastle, Steve Laurie, Warren Hill, all of the, all the great jazz artists man. And I, yeah, I’ll be listened to that. She always put the jazz station and whenever I go for a doctor’s appointment and all the time back then they will always play the jazz music too. And the waiting room, I’ll be like, man, like I love about jazz, this song about jazz that I love. And then, like I say, man, is that what I was saying?

 

Joel    00:15:26 :   

 Nah I was saying I’m right there with you, man. I love some old jazz. It just makes you feel good

 

      Jay    00:15:34 :   

   Hell yeah. Dog. Not a day pass by where I don’t listen to jazz. Jazz is always playing and I’m. 

 

Britain    00:15:42 :   

 So, so was your mother a big jazz fan or was this something like you all were, you know

 

      Jay    00:15:45 :   

   She would listen to jazz she would listen to like the Beatles, like all the classical stuff, but it wasn’t always mostly like jazz and Spanish music too.

 

Britain    00:15:55 :   

 Awesome.

 

Joel    00:15:56 :   

 That’s cool

 

Britain    00:15:58 :   

 Awesome. So I’ve got to also ask since we’re on the influences here, what’s up a three six mafia bro.

 

      Jay    00:16:06 :   

   Three, six mafia, man. All right. So first time I ever, ever listened to three, six mafia, I mean, pretty sure it was, everybody was stay fly. I remember why the world premiere on MTV back in October. And I was like, man, at that time I was a kid. So I was just like, man, I just thought there were a new group and I’ll just bump in their music. Yeah. And then years, six, seven years later, I had this home boy, he showed me one of the three, six mafias oldest song.

 

Britain    00:16:42 :   

 See me. See that’s where I’m at.

 

      Jay    00:16:44 :   

   Yeah. And I was just like, damn three, six mafia in 1995. I was like, nah, that’s not possible. And I was, Oh yeah, man. I listened to mystic styles for the first time. I was like, Holy shit. Like…

 

Britain    00:16:57 :   

 Alright bro im probably going to take it back on you? Then? My shit, three, six mafia to me, boy, that is going to be chapter two, world domination that is my shit.

 

      Jay    00:17:08 :   

   Hell yeah. Chapter 1, Chapter 2.

 

Britain    00:17:12 :   

 That’s where it all started for me all the way back to the baby mama all the way back in the two way free days All that shit dude.

 

      Jay    00:17:18 :   

   Chicken-head.

 

Britain    00:17:18 :  

 Yes! Yes-sir. That old school shit.

 

[Laughter]

 

Britain    00:17:23 :   

 That’s coming out, heavy up in the music to and I think what makes it is that three, six Memphis style trap vibe mixed with that sweet, sweet saxophone and those jazzy jazzy vibes here. And I’m telling you it’s awesome.

 

      Jay    00:17:38 :   

   It makes a difference going, man. It’s a different style man. Like, yeah. There’s some more cats who does the type of music I’ve made, but every producer has their own style. Me mine is more like laid back retro lo-fi you know what I mean? That’s just my style.

 

Britain    00:17:56 :   

 You got that lo-fi jazz man. And that definitely stands out. That’s what’s standing out. You know what I mean?

 

      Jay    00:18:00 :   

   I appreciate that man.

 

Joel    00:18:01 :  

 And that’s one thing that i absolutely love about it is because you know, everybody’s trying to be on the other end of the spectrum and be out there aggressive in your face and stuff, but like most definitely, you know, it’s just like jazz, like know jazz is one of those things where you listen to it over the course of like an hour or so as a pure enjoyment and kind of like, um, you know, a, visceral kind of, you know, enjoyment and feeling from listening to it it’s not something that you just put it on in passing, like just driving into the gas station, some shit like that.

 

      Jay    00:18:35 :   

   Right.

 

Joel    00:18:39 :   

 Whereas like other stuff, but on the other end of the spectrum is like the majority of the, you know, kind of mumble rap thing that we hear today, it’s all kind of like quick, it’s basically like pop fucking junkie rap nowadays.

 

      Jay    00:18:52 :   

   Yeah. I’m not too big on mumble rap mumble rap to me is just garbage. It’s just, there’s no creativity or originality and that’s all this guy sounds like this cat, you know what I mean?

 

Joel    00:19:07 :   

 Right. And I mean, I won’t lie. Like I enjoy some of it, you know, some of the Trinity shit ill here it and stuff, but it’s just not my vibe. And that’s when they told me to you, is that lo-fi kind of feel. Um, and I don’t know how to explain it, like listening, like jazz and more lo-fi music is like, when you start getting like really tipsy and that’s when you start like really being stupid, like it puts me back on that level. 

 

      Jay    00:19:34 :  

   Oh yeah, man. Especially when you smoke and the joint to it, man, MAN, lay back and relax for room.

 

Joel    00:19:42 :   

 Yeah for real, so, um, what other influences do you have aside from You know, the three, six mafia and kind of, you know, you had this kind of retro vibe and whatnot. I mean, uh, what, what kind of like, is it more about like your routine as far as doing, do you just like dedicate X amount of time a day to, you know, put in to create more music? Or do you just kind of go on based on how you feel in any given moment? I mean, do you have a structure just kind of..

 

      Jay    00:20:13 :   

   I pretty much do it everyday, bro, like, like, like, like, like for example, like on my days off, when I wake up make music and then between it…see. With me, I don’t, I don’t be stuck on one beat. I’ll just save it and come back to that later and work on the next feat. Just like how Pac was when he was making raps. If he couldn’t finish that song and he’ll save it and he’ll come back later and work onto the next one, because the majority of producers downfall these days is that they stay stuck on one track and you shouldn’t stay on one track for hours upon hours. You want to go ahead and keep working on next stuff. You know what I mean? And then…

 

Joel    00:20:51 :   

 Yeah that makes sense.

 

      Jay    00:20:53 :   

   Yeah, like after I get done with the session, I’ll go ahead and just take my little smoke break. My smoke breaks take like one to two hours at the most. And I just listen to nothing but jazz music walk around smoke, you know what I mean? Just get some inspiration, not only the jazz, they’re all different type of genre music and then when I’m at work, I just put my headphones on, listen to jazz music, man, pretty much on working and also working and my other job. You feel me?

 

Joel    00:21:25 :   

 Yeah Yeah, for real. So it kind of sounds like, you know, a really big influence on the jazz side is you really use a lot of improvisation when you’re creating your…

 

      Jay    00:21:35 :   

   Oh yeah. Oh Yeah

 

Joel    00:21:43 :   

 Yeah Yeah That’s pretty cool. Um, I guess my next question to kind of follow up with that is, uh, do you have any like weird habits or anything you have to do to kind of get into that vibe? Like a good example for me would be like every single morning I have to do a series of certain things and I can’t communicate it for like an hour and a half just to, in order for me to start my day effectively. Otherwise I’m shit the rest of the day. Do you have anything to prepare for? You’re making music and shit like that?

 

      Jay    00:21:10 :   

   Man, just smoke weed. Haha That’s all really.

 

[Inaudible]

 

      Jay    00:22:20 :   

   Yeah. Dawg, like I like to smoke before I get into my session because it puts me into like creativity mode sober-minded I was still, I was still have that ability create like be creative, but once I’m like, high man, that’s when I’m like to a whole different dimension or frequency that’s when I just come up with different ideas of what I would how would this song like this, you know what I mean? Stuff like that. (Yeah.) I like to, that’s just, this is me. 

 

Britain    00:22:49 :   

 I definitely think there’s something more to that as well. Since you mentioned that, what can I take it a little left field or right field wherever, wherever we want to go. We’re growing outer space, but I think that to the creative process and, and your rituals, um, I think it’s fair to say that it definitely gets you on a different vibration.

 

      Jay    00:23:13 :   

   Most definitely.

 

Britain    00:23:14 :   

 And anybody that, you know, probably smokes will probably be able to relate to what I’m talking about as far as vibration, but it’s um, it’s, it’s definitely an awakening.

 

      Jay    00:23:27 :   

   Oh yeah.

 

Britain    00:23:28 :   

 I was deaf. So I kinda, I kinda, I kinda liked that, that you have your own ritual before you do your music and that you’ve got a lot amount of time that you set for yourself for your mind to relax and to recoup, you know, to de-s.. you know, sensitize yourself from all that stimulation whilst you’re giving yourself and then

 

      Jay    00:23:49 :   

   Yup. I agree.

 

Britain    00:23:50 :   

 You know, unpack everything, you know?

 

      Jay    00:23:53 :   

   Right.

 

Britain    00:23:54 :   

 So I definitely, I definitely vibed with that. Oh yeah. I think it’s crucial.

 

      Jay    00:23:58 :   

   Appreciate the man. Yeah, man, like I’m dedicated to this man. Like I said, if, if it wasn’t for like the coronavirus lock down, I would have not released led light expelled darkness or what I’ve released playalistic harmony I’ll probably would have just been fucking around with it, you know? But yeah. Thanks to the lockdown. Yeah.

 

Britain    00:24:20 :   

 Yeah. Since you say that to ’em since led came out first, why don’t you go into a little bit about light expels darkness? Kind of tell us about maybe just a little bit about, cause we know about the original we know about the influences. Tell us a little bit about that project, maybe where you were, when that that project came around and then, uh, maybe slide and segue into, uh, your, your playlist of harmony, which is my friend you’ve got something there.

 

Joel    00:24:49 :   

 Yeah. For real.

 

      Jay    00:24:53 :   

   I appreciate the well LED I like how it, it was like abbreviated the light expels darkness. All my music is going to bring light and says the whole darkness that was going on during like March and April, especially when people’s going fucking crazy out of their minds with the whole lock down and think it was the end of the world. But you know, I was like, you know what, in order to calm down the vibrations of everybody, you gotta, you gotta put in a specific type of frequency that will calm it, relax the soul. You know what I mean? That’s why I had an added Jazz. And then on top of that, people like traps. So making jazz and trap together will smoothed, the Soul, you know what I mean? So it was really like, and that was like the meaning behind L.E.D., you know, like my music just bringing light into the darkness of the world. 

 

Britain    00:25:51 :   

 I definitely vibe, with that.

 

      Jay    00:25:54 :  

   And then playalistic man like that whole tape is non-but like laid back music for like players and pimps and macks to listen to, because I was just, you know, back in the day in the nineties, like Memphis rap, they all play, they sample similar samples that I use. That’s why it has that playalistic feel to it You know what I mean?

 

Britain    00:26:20 :   

 Right.

 

      Jay    00:26:21 :   

   Playalistic just, just laid back, man. Just laid back.

 

Britain    00:26:26 :   

 So playalistic harmony bro, it’s it’s got my girlfriend’s name in it, Harmony, and yeah. So, so I’m definitely, I vibed with it to begin with. And, and there’s a certain track in it that harmony loves that, that he says P. I. M. P.

 

      Jay    00:26:46 :   

   Aw the first track. Yeah Yeah.

 

Britain    00:26:47 :   

 Yes sir.. Put it in my pocket. tell me a little bit more about those samples man. 

 

      Jay    00:26:58 :   

   Those samples see originally that track was named playalistic harmony. That was way before I was going to come up with the fifth tape. So what happened was like, I found that sample on my YouTube recommended section one time, it was just this pimp giving out some advices and stuff and I’ve heard it. And the part where it got me interested was there’s a virus going on. It’s called the hating virus. You know what I mean? And I was like, what? Like if I, if I sampled it, put it on, put it on, you know, on the beat, it will match with all that shit going on because there is a lot of hating going on the world right now, a lot of hate. And there is a virus quote, unquote virus going on. So I was just like, you know what, why not throw it on the track? They’re on the track posted on YouTube, got a lot of good feedback out of it. I don’t know why my, well, that was like a rough draft. I wasn’t going to be like the final product. I don’t know why my highest decided to put a rough draft on YouTube and you know, thinking it was going to be the final version, but it wasn’t. So it gave me like, can you hear me?

 

Britain    00:28:17 :   

 Oh yeah, we got you.

 

      Jay    00:28:18 :   

   So it gave me an idea. So you know what? I liked the name playalistic harmony. Why not make it as a beat? So as a beat tape and yeah, from there it’s history man, and the numbers likes it. Just keep rising up day by day.

 

Britain   00:28:36 :    

 I’m loving it.

 

      Jay    00:28:36 :   

   Yeah, man, like this, this is definitely going to surpass led cause led it took like three, yeah. Two to three months to get to like 1000 view. This one was like nearly like 400 numbers away to being a thousand. So it’s not bad, man. All my hard work is putting and it’s not going to happen overnight. It’s going to take time and patience as I’ve always, you know? 

 

Britain    00:29:05 :  

 Oh yeah. I love the fact LED’s lingering around back there as, as almost like an underground tape. And so it can, it can stay that way and honestly, I love that.

 

      Jay    00:29:14 :  

   Me too, bro. 

 

Britain    00:29:15 :   

 I heard that tape second. Honestly, I heard that after playalistic harmony. So I’m, I’m almost sad that I did, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles

 

      Jay    00:29:25  :  

   LEDs. Is my all time favorite, all my buddies, they love led. They all got a copy of it. So yeah. I appreciate the tape, man. I appreciate you for your support dog. For real. Yeah. Like 

 

Joel    00:29:42 :   

 I got a side note, I was going to say, and this is just a side note. Um, yeah, you have to email on the outside and um, we have the same way. I was just trying to look it up to figure out what the hell it’s called. But we do this thing on one of our radio stations. We w we have the main hip hop station here for like central Florida area. Um, and we do a second once a week. It’s like, uh, find new artists or some shit like that. So you have to get me over what you were to submit and I’ll put you in on there.

 

      Jay    00:30:13 :   

   Hey man, I’m definitely down. Have Britain send me. You have, Britain send me your info and I’ll send you, I will send some tracks you tonight.

 

Joel    00:30:25 :   

 Alright

 

Britain    00:30:25 :   

 Absolutely.

 

      Jay    00:30:29 :   

   Definitely appreciate it a lot.

 

Joel    00:30:31:    

 Um, and we’re eyes are going and course I think one of the managers there, and he’s really hardcore into jazz and stuff too. He’s driven new Orleans. If you ever get a chance, I don’t know if you’ve been there now, but there’s this, there’s this road called Frenchmen street and new Orleans. And it’s nothing but jazz clubs and like delicious food. And it is, you go there any time, man. And it’s just, you know, street musicians, playing jazz and random people getting together their instruments and just, it’s just such

 

      Jay    00:31:05 :   

   That’s amazing.

 

Joel    00:31:06 :   

 And it’s so great. You have to check it out something.

 

      Jay    00:31:09 :  

   I might have to check that out, man. I’m definitely want to check that out. Cause I’m, I’m a sucker for jazz. I love jazz music a lot. 

 

Joel    00:31:17 :   

 Yeah, man. And you’d be surprised like how cheap it is to go there. Like I’ve never spent more than like $300. It’s been four or five days there really damn near he’s like I found some bad-ass and me and he’s there. I went there once with. And have you ever seen that show? ’em dear white people on Netflix?

 

      Jay    00:31:38 :   

   No, I don’t think so. I’ll be honest with you guys. Like I rarely watch Netflix or keep up of anything. That’s new. I’m mostly just like now I’m just talking music, and..

 

Britain    00:31:51 :   

 Dude. I respect that. And uh, I mean, I hate to say that, but stay that way

 

      Jay    00:31:55 :   

   I feel it dog, man.

 

Britain    00:31:57 :   

 Like as long as you’re vibing that and you’re feeling that inspiration to do that. Go with the flow.

 

      Jay    00:32:01 :   

   Like I don’t like adding like all that negative, negative, negative frequency from social media. If I, if I spend any time or any of my energy into that, that’s going to affect me musically. You know what I mean?

 

Britain    00:32:17 :  

 Oh yeah. And we’ll get into that a little bit more on our last topic here. What was that?

 

Joel    00:32:23 :   

 No, I’m saying you’re very smart to do so.

 

      Jay    00:32:26 :   

   Oh yeah.

 

Britain    00:32:27 :  

 I agree. Well, as a, as far as your music goes, man, we’ve gone through led light expels darkness. That’s going to be your underground tape. I’m I’m so excited. Yeah. And then you’ve got playalistic harmony, uh, upcoming projects. You got anything upcoming that you can, that you can share with us?  You got anything on the shelf?

 

      Jay    00:32:48 :   

   Yeah. This is going to be filled with a lot of treats for y’all. So by mid..

 

Britain    00:32:57 :   

 Ewww treats in October

 

      Jay    00:32:58 :   

   Trick or treat. Hahah [That’s right!] Alright, so check it out. So mid-October, I’m going to be posting a track for my six beat tape. I’m dropping my six beat tape on December six reason. Reason why it’s my birthday and then it matches with the six tape. You know what I mean? I haven’t came up with a title for it yet. It might be called the sixth sense. Something. I haven’t, I haven’t came up the title yet, but I’m going to have a track. That’s going to promote from a six from my six beat tape. And then on Halloween day, I’m going to have an EP that’s going to be called. The other side of the moon its going to be a collaboration with me. And Douglas. Douglas is another dope producer out of Colorado. He’s fucking amazing. He doesn’t use like digital audio workstation, like FL studio, none of that. He dude, he goes back to like nineties. He use a lot of drum machines four, eight track cassette tapes. You know what I mean? Like I’ll recommend.

 

Britain    00:34:04 :   

 That’s definitely legit

 

      Jay    00:34:02 :   

   Hell yea dude his beats. It brings you back into like the nineties underground Memphis era. like, yeah man, like if he was in Memphis during that time, it would have been the rich motherfucker. He would have been rich. So I got that EP. That’s going to be probably like a 12 track tape. I’m always going to release physicals. And I also, I think tonight I’m going to release a track with my homie Syko rich. Syko Rich’s another rapper out of Nashville. He is fucking dope. He is amazing. But I also gonna have an EP tape with them It’s only going to be a six track tape. It ain’t going to be that long. But if you want to listen to some stuff from Syko Rich, you can look them up over on Instagram. I’ll put on. I will give Britain all the details to look up him, look him up because he he’s another amazing rapper another amazing upcoming Rapper.

 

Britain    00:35:04 :   

 Absolutely And so I take my notes, two brother, so yeah.

 

      Jay    00:35:06 :  

   Oh yeah man.

 

Britain    00:35:07 :  

 Absolutely.

 

      Jay    00:35:08 :   

   Like I said, I got the six beat tapes coming up in December six and that’s pretty much it and probably along the way, I’ll have more collaboration projects now for 2021, there’s going to be a lot more. There’ll be a lot more..

 

Britain    00:35:23 :   

 Awesome. I love that looking forward. And so you heard it first here, upcoming projects. mid-October track from the sixth beat tape coming December six. So then you’ve got a Halloween day, comes an EAP called other of the moon with Douglas. And then today, October 1st, a psycho rich Nashville EAP, six track tape coming soon. 

 

      Jay    00:35:46 :   

   Yes, sir. All of them going to get physicals. 

 

Britain    00:35:52 :  

 Well, we’ll get all that down though in the bio. So…

 

      Jay    00:35:55 :   

   Sure. All of them release is going to have a physical cassette tape. And if you guys are interested in one, you better, you better cop one ASAP because they’re not going to be no repress.

 

Britain    00:36:06 :   

 Definitely linked me up with something like that. Cause I hate to miss out on anything almost like when it comes to these music physicals man, because underground is my scene and honestly I hate them. I hate the mainstream, so I gotta get in on the physical. 

 

      Jay    00:36:21 :   

   Oh. And I also got one tape. Well it’s not my tape. It’s from my homie old school. Danny B it’s called satanical values. It’s amazing. I really recommend it. He only has 20 copies live also.

 

Britain    00:36:37 :   

 What’s it What’s it called?

 

      Jay    00:36:39 :  

   The satanical values. He’s from Las Vegas, Nevada man. And it’s all like laid back G funk type of sound. You know what I mean? It’s really dope. I recommend, I recommend y’all getting a copy. It’s really dope. I got myself two cops. 

 

Britain    00:36:55 :   

 Oh for sure, dude. I definitely, I got a note of that. Satanical values. You say he’s from Las Vegas, Nevada. [Yep] Awesome, man. Appreciate it. So I guess, uh, tell our viewers real quick. 

 

Joel    00:37:07 :   

 Oh, go ahead. Dovetail on that. I mean you seem to, you know, communicate and work with a lot of people from all over the country that is pretty inspiring. Like for any musicians out there or anything like that is, you know, do you have any advice to that? Like how do you, how did you find such a broad community?

 

      Jay    00:37:26 :  

   You see man, like see with Danny, like I met Danny years ago. It was 2013 to like a three, six mafia forum page and me and him are related on a lot of stuff and we was cool. And you know, that, that happened ever since then. And me and him are working on a EP project. Well, an album is going to come out next year and…

 

Britain    00:37:55 :   

 So your vibing out with your, you know, kind of some of your inspiration, some of the music, like you’re vibing out on those pages with those cliques.

 

      Jay    00:37:55 :   

   Most definitely.

 

Joel    00:38:04 :   

 I’m excited to hear that there is a three six mafia forum.

 

      Jay    00:38:12 :   

   Yeah, dude like it’s cool, man. You got mafia forums, underground Memphis forums. And with the help of like social media, the only good thing about social media I can say is that you can connect and link with people from other States or country and you can work with music and stuff like that. And it’s pretty dope because back in the days, it wasn’t like that you have to go visit them, get studio in session. You know what I mean? And all the nine yards and it’s not like that. Now you can just send a file through.

 

Britain    00:38:45 :   

 The Internet’s paved the way shit, man.

 

      Jay    00:38:46 :   

   Exactly. And you see the sad thing is that the local scene is really dying is not, it’s not as popping as it is now. Back then, like yeah, you, you, you still get local recognition you still get like local fame, but nowadays is the, Internet’s where it’s at. You know, the internet is really where it’s at right now for money local. You can’t really make no money and stuff like that. That’s what I’ve noticed a lot lately. And it’s pretty like, Whoa…

 

Britain    00:39:17 :   

 But you got to keep the tradition hip hop.

 

      Jay    00:39:18 :  

 Oh yeah.

 

Britain    00:39:18 :   

 You gotta keep that mix tape mindset.

 

      Jay    00:39:21 :    

   Most Definitely.

 

Britain    00:39:21 :   

 You gotta keep that music definitely. And you got to keep it alive, man. So, and you’re doing that and uh, hats off to you and I appreciate that, bro. Keep it up. Uh Joel did you want to ask him any more questions about where we were at with, um, you know, old school, Danny B and M anything coming up, maybe for him in 2021 before we go into where, you know, one last stitch where we can find this stuff. 

 

Joel    00:39:45 :   

 No, man. I’m good. I mean very, very fun.

 

Britain    00:39:51 :   

 Awesome brother. Well, why don’t you tell us one last time where he can, wherever I can find your music, man. And we’ll, we’ll actually, uh, hit on some things you said about social media.

 

      Jay    00:39:59 :

   Sure Most definitely. You can follow me on YouTube. Letter J space Da D.A Unknown follow me on there. And there you can find me on Sound Cloud, Instagram, Bang Camp, all spelled the same way. I guess I’m going to have my man Britain right. All scription, all of that information to the description and you guys can follow me.

 

Britain    00:40:18 :   

 Absolutely.

 

Joel    00:40:19 :  

 Perfect.

 

Britain    00:40:20 :   

 Awesome. So here we go. Next segment. Our last portion of it here, it is a election year guys. We all do know that and it’s creeping up on one month almost. Yeah. And um, social media is outrageous and has been, and it’s also, uh, I mean I say social media, let’s, let’s talk about, um, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube specifically let’s let’s throw out fucking Instagrams tik tok and all that bullshit for now. Um, and the influence that it has is on the masses, maybe some psychology behind that. Um, I mean, does, I mean, I’m talking brief psychology. I don’t want to sit here and try and rack anybody’s brain about what’s actually going on. But um, you know, there’s some books that I’ve seen that may have some, some play into this. We can even go down some rabbit holes briefly about, you know, does the CIA have influence on this stuff? Who knows? But um, you know, what’s your take on this election year for one, maybe your, your touch Corona briefly and then we’ll roll into social media and what you think as far as their mindset on trying to control the masses and you know, dangling carrots here, or maybe they’re trying to divide us on purpose. I don’t know. 

 

      Jay    00:41:48 :   

   This is like the perfect year for them to do. All of this stuff like corona never happened. They would have at least social media. So social media was already thing that was one of their tools to like control people and put them set feeling a specific way, especially of all this controversy topics and you know, all of that. And yeah, with Corona Def they have control the masses really well yet there’s an illness going on, but it’s not as deadly as we think of this. It can just be your seasonal flu. But then again, I’ve heard cases of people dying from that ship, but people normally die from that all the time. You know what I mean? So I’m not new under the sun.

 

Britain    00:42:38 :   

 We’ve taken the precautions around here. Um, we don’t go around…

 

Joel    00:42:43 :   

 Like the flu is just taking a break for the last year. Like, you know what covid yall got this.. peace.

 

   Jay    00:42:52 :  

   I mean we noticed last year, like the weather here in Louisville, we never had a winter like that, so I didn’t get sick at all like that so I can see why it can be creeping up right now. You know? So yeah, I mean…

 

Britain    00:43:07 :   

 And it does this every year. So, you know, we don’t really even know if there’s one strain. I don’t know.

 

      Jay    00:43:15 :  

   At this point…

 

Britain    00:43:17 :   

 Going around there, could be one and it could be five strains. Who knows.

 

      Jay    00:43:21 :   

   Exactly. And that does point, man, you it’s just, it makes you question about a lot things and you gotta, you gotta realize, man, like we never had a lock down for the HIV virus for the age who never had all of this or even for the ebola or H1N1 we had it for Corona. So how they can control it.

 

Joel    00:43:44 :  

 Its definitely more than anything else. I mean, you look at the fucking like Scandinavian countries and shit they had in my eyes opinion, the right approach. We’re not going to shut anything down. We’re going to continue life as is and let our immune system build up to it and you know, did it, and the most stoic sense possible. Yes, of course, Americas gonna have more Deaths and lost and everything else because we’re having 300 fucking million people in the country.

 

      Jay    00:43:21 :    

   Exactly and some of us are gullible too. We don’t even give a fuck.

 

Joel    00:44:27 :    

 You know, we’ll have some bitch going to a gas station at two to get hohos with a fucking flu or whatever. Americans are not the brightest fucking people. And I think too, like it makes me wonder as far as the whole idea of like, is there like an external factor controlling all this? Or is it that we as a society are just that dumb and you look at what social media does to people. [Oh yeah.] I really like, even with COVID like thing, people are happy to fucking shut down for a few months got bad-ass and employment able to just kind of fuck off and actually have excuses to not go in and work physically at a location. And we get an opportunity to bitch on social media all day. I think we could, you gave everything.

 

Britain    00:45:18 :   

 Could you imagine if we were in high school when they closed down schools for like that last portion of the year, could you imagine?

 

Joel    00:45:26 :   

 I wouldn’t make it out alive? 

 

      Jay    00:45:28 :   

   Me neither! Haha.

 

Britain    00:45:29 :   

 Dude Here’s the shit, here’s the, here’s the, here’s the real take now dude. Joel if we were in high school still, and this and this went down, you’d be downtown protesting right now.

 

Joel    00:45:38  :  

 Oh yeah Absolutely fucking right. And then like everybody’s like that, I think everybody has like that anarchist fucking, you know, radical kind of left liberal kind of [id be with you] and then you kind of get older and you’re just like, well, I kinda don’t want to be crazy on either sides. I’m going to fall in the middle somewhere…

 

      Jay    00:46:00 :  

   Right.

 

Britain    00:46:02 :   

 Yeah. We both have kids. So it’s like we gotta be here to protect them. and the best example for them, you know, my, and his are both old enough to start learning about what these rights are and you know, what it means and you know, the way people are treated and that how people different, you know, people that she’s going to be grown up with that look different than her are going to be treated differently and that’s not the world that we know we all want to grow up in. So it’s, it’s a talk that we’re all having. And it’s something I think that we plan to discuss here as well. There’s definitely, maybe, maybe a conversation for another time.

 

Joel    00:46:39  :  

 I think you take the approach that like, at least with my kid, what I like to do is just like, I’m not putting all that bullshit in her head. I’m just gonna, you know, treat everybody as the reasonable human being because you’re a reasonable human being. There’s nothing else that has been more involved. You know, I think that’s the biggest thing as far as with the kids and what’s wrong with society this day is we want to have, you know, labels and actions and fucking, you know, objective 100%, you know, just be a good human and you’re pretty much solid for your whole life. 

 

      Jay    00:47:15 :   

   Right. And don’t look down on our people as like lower, you know what I mean? Like this class, exactly. It’s just pure ignorance. We’re all living through that type of exactly. No matter if you’re black, white, Latino we all bleed the same, you know?

 

Britain    00:47:32 :  

 Right. And I think I’m a big part of that too. It’s a cause it’s a mental construct. So if you start to think about it as a mental construct, you look at it just almost as a character defect, it’s something that you’ve got to understand, something you’ve got to tackle and move on. That’s the wedding manifesting something worse. You just address that character defect and why you feel that way about something, dude. And you’re going to learn something about yourself and probably feel better about it. Or you’re going to realize that there’s some things that need, you know, either way. I think that it’s when you look inward in situations like that, the best thing to do is, you know, like they say its unconditional love, so you said something about social media specifically that I want to touch on, um, you said that it makes you feel a certain type of world and then it’s known yet. And it’s known to create greater activity in neural networks and like reward processing regions. So the Brain, you know, social cognition, limitation, different parts of the brain kind of spark up when you’re looking at pictures and you get things instantly and it’s rewarding and shit like that. So you’re onto something there. Um, what are your thoughts on that? Joel if you want to kind of chime in and then maybe Jay follow up Joel you there?

 

Joel    00:48:50 :  

 Oh, sorry. My shit panned out for a second. What’d you say?

 

Britain    00:48:52 :  

  No, you’re good. Um, my question was, was social media, is he, he, he got me thinking earlier about how social media makes you feel a certain type of way. And I’ve, I’ve actually read articles where they talk about the networks in your brain that spark up, or like flash up whenever you’re viewing social media, um, what are your thoughts on that? Do you think that that was done intentional or they may be exploiting that a little too much? Like the case was, uh, what was that video game fortnight where that they actually had psychologist helping them keep the Da game, you know, slightly addictive too.

 

Joel    00:49:30 :  

 I mean, that is just simply you have to, I am coming and just for context, I have a master, I have an MBA in finance. I worked in business, the executive for a company. Like I understand that it is shitty to think about, but if you have a marketing aspect though, stoic rational sense, if you want to participate in a free market, that’s part of it. And it’s up to you as the individual to think for yourself and to realize when shit’s not wrong and your Facebook the other day. And I went through the privacy settings to see what they had new man. 

 

Joel    00:50:17 :  

  I basically just hidden myself from the entire platform and Facebook cause I’ve been getting canceled lately and it’s not that hard. And it’s just cause people don’t put the energy into it. They accept any terms and agreements. And to me, like one thing is being a good human is being fucking accountable. And if you can’t be accountable for your own fucking ignorance, then you can’t bitch about what other people were doing. You only, you know, things only happen to you if you make that choice too. And as a marketer, yes, we use, I mean, I had to study social psychology, all sorts of stuff because like we call it consumer dynamics. For instance, you have a buyer cycle. I, my purchasing cycle, it starts you, everything from how to get people’s attraction all the way into after they purchase something and try to avoid, you know, um, I forget the exact word, but it’s basically like a dissonance of some sort towards your product. 

 

Joel    00:51:14 :   

 If you buy something and feel shitty afterwards. So that’s why like when you buy something from Amazon, you get notifications all the way until it’s shipped at your door. And then usually within three to five days after you get your shipment, you get another email response basically saying, Hey, did you like the product? Because we want to ensure that you were okay at the product. Everything was solid. We do that to ensure that there is no negative kind of connotation towards you purchasing that it’s all psychology. And when we use it for everything in life, I mean, we try to fucking go Mack on a chick in a bar we’re using psychology to kind of fucking trick them and thinking more of the shit. You know what I mean?

 

      Jay    00:51:55 :   

   Exactly

 

Joel    00:51:56 :   

 It’s, it’s everywhere. You just can’t deny it and say that it’s fucking evil and that’s my bottom line to it. 

 

      Jay    00:52:04 :  

   That’s true. What you say is completely true and see the problem with social media these days. A lot of people follow and share a lot of ignorant stuff that will cause tension like arguments, disagreements that would just, you know what I mean? This is not cool.

 

Britain    00:52:23 :   

 I’m guilty.

 

      Jay    00:52:24 :   

   I mean, I feel you like some, sometimes I’ll post stuff just to have an interesting conversation. And then you have are people who go overboard, like calling names and ages and stuff. It’s just ignorant.

 

Britain    00:52:41:    

 I try to keep it comical if it ain’t funny then I’m like, you know, and I get roasted.

 

Joel    00:52:48 :   

 I have cut down on my shit. So sparingly. And then like after the debate, I made a comment to one person that I’ve known for over 20 years and I got canceled for it simply because I had a different there and it’s just like people. And then I got named Called, I got fucking messages and all sorts of crazy shit.

 

      Jay    00:53:11 :   

   That’s ridiculous. Right.

 

Joel    00:53:12 :   

 And I didn’t even feel.

 

Britain    00:53:13 :   

 Cancel culture on social media is ridiculous right now.

 

Joel    00:53:17 :   

 It’s just so insane to me that like, you know, and especially this whole idea of like, I fall pretty much in the middle and I don’t understand how people on the left, which are primarily the loudest people on social media are sitting there, you know, being the loudest person in the room and canceling everything in the name of, you know, progression and being a better society. But you’re, you know, it’s that old adage. It’s like those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. So all you’re doing is muffling this shit that if you make your goal and nobody says a mean thing and nobody has a mean side or it’s stressful, or what the fuck ever for the rest of their lives, eventually it’s going to fucking burst and it’s going to come back to you tenfold. And then, you know, the same thing can be said for a writer just to fucking conspiracy theorist and kind of just think that the deep state and the left is just going to take over everything.… and really it’s just, everyone’s being kind of dumb.

 

      Jay    00:54:22 :  

   Right and…… And what kills me though, is a lot of people in social media share a lot of fake, satire information. Like they don’t take the opportunity to like question it and be all right. Well, I heard this…

 

Joel    00:54:41 :   

 Absolutely.

 

      Jay    00:54:42 :   

   I’m going to find some information, see if it’s true or not, you gotta separate what salt and what’s sugar. They both look alike. They don’t taste the same. You know what I mean?

 

Joel    00:54:51 :   

 Right.

 

Britain    00:54:51 :   

 100 percent agree.

 

      Jay    00:54:52 :   

   And a lot of people don’t don’t do that. They were just sharing like, Oh yeah, I heard from there or from Facebook and these are the same people.

 

Britain    00:55:00 :   

 Or I’m going to look at that later…

 

      Jay    00:55:01 :   

   Right, These are the same. Exactly. These are the same people.

 

Joel    00:55:07 :   

 I do this shit for a living clickbait sells advertisements.

 

      Jay    00:15:12 :   

   Exactly. Like they they…

 

Britain    00:55:17 :   

 I would much rather do…

 

      Jay    00:55:18 :   

   Actually do the information and to them as a conspiracy to use all you see on YouTube, but they actually got there the time to do the information shared, acknowledge to you, but these people share all these quote-un-quote, information it’s all bullshit, man. And that’s why it’s hard for me sometimes because I use social media just to promote my music. I don’t like to get on them and just maybe here and there, I will give like my 2 cents about how I feel, but I don’t want to continue promoting that topic because that will affect me musically, because I, you got to separate from politics and from music, you can’t keep that to the same, you know, but right now, especially with all the huge controversy going on,

 

Britain    00:56:00 :   

 Right I agree

 

      Jay    00:56:05  :  

   Especially with like full police brutality, the black life matters and all of that, I’m all about the black lives matter. 

 

      Jay    00:56:10 :  

   I agree with the movement, but I don’t agree with certain things. You know what I mean? I just, I’m not 100 foot down, but at the same time, I don’t like to follow any groups. You know, I don’t like falling in groups, all of this, all of this stuff going on, it’s a huge distraction to control the masses, you know, playing with there emotions and, stuff like that, you know like, (inaudible) Oh yeah. Like social media is such a perfect tool for the higher ups. to just do whatever the fuck they want to do to just get people amped up. And I am honestly will, since we’re like literally literally close to the election, something’s going to go down before or after the elections. 

 

Britain    00:57:00 :   

 I hear it’s in LA

 

      Jay    00:57:02 :  

   LA.

 

Joel    00:57:03 :   

 I donno

 

Britain    00:57:04 :   

 I keep hearing people that live out there. There’s just rumblings in LA from what I have heard…

 

Joel    00:57:08 :   

 And I wouldn’t doubt that but you gotta think with a logical perspective something’s going to happen one way or another after the election Trump’s taken out…

 

Britain    00:57:16 :   

 That’s obvious somethings always fucking happening. No matter what I mean, California is always on fucking fire.

 

Joel    00:57:21 :   

 Yeah well that’s just cause they’re dumb and they don’t know how to manage money well, but like if you look at it, like if Trump is more than likely going to be reelected and all the crazy radical lefts are going to go bat shit, crazy and protests and riots are going to be insane again.

 

      Jay    00:57:34 :   

   Exactly.

 

Joel    00:57:36 :   

 And then if Trump And then if Trump is taken out all the fucking crazy rednecks in the world are going to come out and just be fucking bat shit crazy.

 

      Jay    00:57:44 :   

   Oh yeah.

 

Joel    00:57:44 :   

 I have a feeling the holidays are just gonna be insane And then, Q1 will happen and then we’ll have a fucking boom in our economy and everything will be okay.

 

      Jay    00:57:53 :   

   For real. But with Trump though, I feel like if he lose, he doesn’t want to give up his throne. I know that’s going to happen. He’s going to say it’s a fraud and all of that type of shit.

 

Joel    00:58:06 :   

 Maybe but he will have to fucking leave. And he is not dumb enough to go to prison to not leave. You know what I mean?

 

      Jay    00:58:13 :   

   Right. Exactly. It’s just.

 

Britain    00:58:17 :  

 Yeah I don’t know. He’s not an idiot. I think, I don’t know. I don’t think with the way shit’s going down, it seems an awful lot, like 2016 plus we saw a lot of shit go down and not a lot on unfold. And I mean, I’ve been talking to a lot of people about this viewpoint. The truth is like a lot, it’s an open to interpretation. So, you know, you may get to your truth to a different viewpoint based on your experiences. And I may have some truth about the same topic based on my experiences that are going to be completely different based on my agreement, uh, upbringing and what I’m, you know, actually going through at the time or in the moment or my vantage point from what I actually saw or whatever. So I feel like, you know, truth is up to interpretation a lot of times, you know, and science a science until it fucking isn’t. And that’s why the science is done over and over and over and over and over and over again. And then sometimes it just doesn’t work. And a lot of these leading theories, you know, that people love to just talk all this shit about, you know, they ignore so much stuff to even be a theory, you know, so science isn’t perfect it does go after and tackle a lot of awesome topics. And it is science. I mean, you can’t refute a lot of that shit, but as far as like, you know, believe in it a hundred percent, you know, you’re like religion, you know, a hundred percent into something that’s basically a cult, right? You get that cultish viewpoint. And to me, I like to have an open mind to things. I like to take a little bit of everything into account. So…

 

Joel    00:59:47 :   

 And people didn’t realize too, like things are like, just because like there’s any type of science or any type of theory, you can talk about fact in general just because it is true in that moment. and in that sample, that does not mean it’s an absolute, I mean, this is exactly why psychology in that entire field itself has become kind of shit because like all these developmental psychology things and all these studies that created what is now, you know, incorporate and, and DSM five and within the psychology practice today has more or less men debunked cause from the seventies and stuff like that. So you think about it. We don’t have huge sample sizes. A scientist have college students to be able to do experiments with, and to be able to get resources from, they don’t have the resources to get a true significant sample. So their co or Pearson coefficients are going to be high, or they’re going to be low because if you’re only sampling, you know, you only have enough money for 200 parts or 200 people for the survey or whatever. You’re never going to have an absolute answer. And I think that’s the problem with everybody in general is we’re looking for absolutes when there is none. And, and the reality is you just kind of have to interpret the data as a individual and figure out what best is going to serve you in your life for that day or that week or whatever.

 

Britain    01:01:14 :   

 I think it’s best to take through thought, you know, through logic and a little bit of theory, you know, with understanding, sitting down with multi-cultural people, different generations its going to have to be a blending of all this. And you know, people are going to have to have those conversations that are hot button and be able to not act a complete fucking fool.

 

      Jay    01:01:36  :  

   Exactly.

 

Britain   01:01:36 :   

 I mean, it’s okay to talk about something and learn something new and to express yourself properly without getting fucking mad.

 

      Jay    01:01:45 :   

   Damn fucking right!

 

Britain    01:01:45 :   

 You don’t have to call people names.

 

Joel    01:01:47 :   

 Right. 

 

Britain    01:01:48 :   

 Labels are something that you got to keep out. So any kind of label has got to stay out of the picture. I mean, you can seriously talk about theory as a theory and not attach your name, your life and your entire wellbeing to that thing So that way, when it gets attacked, you feel like you’re being attacked.

 

      Jay    01:02:05 :   

   Exactly.

 

Joel    01:02:05 :   

 Right.

 

      Jay    01:02:06 :   

   Like me, me and my, me and my buddy, me and him will have a lot of the controversial topics to talk about. We never, like, we’ll never go off on each other one will have one belief and I’ll have the other belief and just have understand each side. 

 

      Jay    01:02:20 :   

   And so like you said, calling them names or, you know what I mean? Like that’s what society is consists of now. Like if you don’t, if they don’t agree with you about something, then, then fuck them your opinion. Don’t matter. My opinion matters. You know what I mean? Like this is what society is built on these days and it’s ridiculous, you know? Like we’re all entitled to expressing ourselves whether you believe it or not. You know.

 

Joel    01:02:47 :   

 I think it’s funny to…

 

Britain    01:02:48 :   

 They need to take some mushrooms.

 

      Jay    01:02:49 :   

   Exactly.

 

Joel    01:02:51 :    

 No, definitely and I think it’s funny, you mentioned that because.

 

      Jay    01:02:55 :  

   Or DMT.

 

Joel    01:02:57 :     

 Oh God. Yes. 

 

Joel    01:03:00 :   

 Id do that right now but anyways I think that is like literally the epitome of what I talked to people about why I think there’s been such an uprising in the conservative community because the conservative community has more, a wider umbrella. That’s like, we don’t give a fuck. What other people think or anything like that. If we disagree with you, we’ll disagree with you. And that’s kind of the end of actually. And it’s just as wild to me.

 

      Jay    01:03:28 :   

   It’s crazy, man. Like people are just, they’re just amped up for no reason. There’s no need to get all angry. If someone disagree or agrees with you about something, you know, like I’ve never understood why people act that way. I’m just like, man, I’m like, bye. You know, just like, okay, if he doesn’t see the same, eye to eye or something, just let it be. Not many people are going to be exactly the same person as you.

 

      Jay    01:03:55 :   

   And one person will have a different belief. You know what I mean? That’s just how life works because we all have the same beliefs and that’s dictatorship and dictatorship, not cool.

 

Britain    01:04:07 :   

 Nah… everybody can create their own little platform or be part of a platform and, and voice their opinion on different platforms. Streams, processes, people .. you know?

 

Joel    01:04:17 :   

 And it doesn’t… in your daily life.

 

      Jay    01:04:21 :   

   Exactly, exactly, man. Like it’s just crazy how society is turned up way soon enough. The future for America is not going to be good. We’re going to, uh, this is all us people, how sensitive we are here in the States. We’re going to have the one to hold somebody’s hand or big brother. Or like Bill Cooper.

 

Britain    01:04:43 :   

 Or we can educate each other.

 

      Jay    01:04:43 :   

   Exactly

 

Britain    01:04:45 :   

 I think that’s a better approach you create the platform, you create a process and you, you go with it and you move and you shoot. You open source it all. You do selth-help or self-help start looking in words and you branch out words, it’s a balloon right up. You got a hand pulling yourself up. You’re pulling somebody up behind you.

 

      Jay    01:05:09 :   

   Most definitely.

 

Joel    01:05:11 :   

 It really is just that. Like, I really feel like the media kind of fuels all this type of side because like, even if you go to, like, I spent like two months in London and they’re fucking practically, they’re halfway socialist. Right. But you go there and people are not PC at all. Like people call each other faggots and cunts and everything else. And it’s just like a big joke. You know, they’re just words and people are not easily offended over there, even though you would think they would be. But then here in America we have to, you know, be a social justice warrior and get on our high horse. Every chance we get.

 

      Jay    01:05:48 :   

   Right. Exactly.

 

Britain    01:05:51 :   

 I mean, a lot of it, a lot of it truly is low vibrational thinking. And uh, when you put out low vibration, you’re going to get back low vibrational. So I think, um, I think there’s a lot of different, you know, magic out there for everybody. And it’s just a matter of finding your own magic, your own process and sticking to it. 

 

Britain    01:06:09 :   

 Good thing. Good thing is, is I’m here to help people get to that point. Um, and I think Joel and I will both have things to offer. I’d love to have you back on and talk more about that to, and dive into some conspiracies and shit like that. But also we got some self-help stuff coming up to where we can be able to help people out, understand, you know, themselves maybe better.

 

      Jay    01:06:32 :   

   Most definitely. I was going to add one thing to what you were saying. Like we’re, uh, yeah, cause we’re, we’re vibe, we’re vibrational beings, you know what I mean? We react to certain vibrations. If we react to negative vibrations, then we’re going to act negative. If we’re going to react to positive and we’re going to react positive and then all your environment around you is going to be that way. You know what I mean? It’s all about how you’re sending off your vibrations. 

 

Joel    01:07:00 :  

 Absolutely.

 

Britain    01:07:00 :   

 I agree. A hundred percent man.

 

Joel    01:07:03 :   

 And then tie that back into your music. It’s the same thing, with music, I mean, exactly, exactly. Trying to remember the term of it. I’m want to say it’s harmonic proportion or something like that, but it’s basically the theory in music where every sound is a mathematical number. I mean, that’s why we have, you know, four beats or whatever. I don’t know shit about music, but I just remember learning in school, but you know yeah. I mean like everything is mathematical. Everything is on a series of vibrations.

 

      Jay    01:07:35 :   

   Exactly it’s all on the frequencies level. You know, you have your high and low and your mid.

 

Britain    01:07:44 :  

 Yeah, I think, uh, I think the entire group of, uh, collective consciousness that is the human race on this planet is going higher. They are sending hiring in consciousness and like vibrations, but I think that we’re going off slow and that, uh, you know, if we just talk about things a little bit better and try and express what we’re actually thinking, we’ll figure out that we’re probably all getting to the same place just a different times.

 

Joel    01:08:14 :  

 No, definitely. 

 

Britain    01:08:18 :   

 But I definitely greatly appreciate you coming on. We did run a little long for our first episode. Um, I’d love to have you.

 

      Jay    01:08:25 :  

   Most definitely. I’m down. I’m down for future Podcast I’m down for it, man.

 

Britain    01:08:33 :   

 Absolutely. So, uh, get those, uh, you know, projects going and uh, I’m definitely going to get some pieces again. So if you want guys, uh, again, I’ll look, I’ll put it down in the bio, but you can, you can find Jay on YouTube and, and, uh, what is it Band Camp?

 

      Jay    01:08:48 :   

   Band Camp, SoundCloud.

 

Britain    01:08:50 :   

 SoundCloud. Uh, yeah. Any last thoughts fellas?

 

Joel    01:08:54 :    

 We’ll have everything plugged in just as a reminder at Beard X Brain forward slash Podcast, you’ll be able to find this show as well as all the show notes and the transcript so that, you know, if there’s anything you want to go back to, we’ll make sure that there’s timestamps and all that. Um, but yeah, I really appreciate everything. Jay I mean, you have been a phenomenal sport. It was a great conversation. I enjoyed it.

 

      Jay    01:09:20 :    

   Me too, man. I appreciate all the love to man.

 

Britain    01:09:27 :    

 Not a problem, man. Thank you all. Thank you everybody for listening to our inaugural, our very first premiere, the first episode of Beard and Brain Podcast.

 

Joel    01:09:39 :    

 We’ll look forward to next week since it’s going to be fun.

 

      Jay    01:09:44 :    

   Fa sho.

 

Britain    01:09:45 :    

 Absolutely.

 

Joel    01:09:47 :    

 Alright guys…… BYE BITCHES!!! 

 

[OUTRO MUSIC]

Summary X Show Notes

Transcript

Intro

Joel        00:00:48 :

   You’re gold pony boy

Britain    00:00:49 :

    Welcome to Beard and Brain, Podcast where we interview interesting people to talk about interesting things such as how to blend generational gaps and cultural differences and how we, the people together, can create a truly free press. I am your co-hosts. Britain C Griffin along with my other cohost here. Joel Hinton and this is our premier episode, episode, number one.

Britain    00:01:16 :

   Happy October, and welcome to Beard and Brains very first episode. Start with a little bit about your hosts here. My name is Britain C Griffin and as a humanoid, I’m an avid free thinker from a small town, just outside of Louisville, Kentucky raised by two hippie self-employed parents. At a young age, I was exposed to all sorts of ideas, people and businesses. As a recovering alcoholic, I am a huge advocate for self-help and the introduction of natural plants into modern medicine. I love nature. 

Britain    00:01:49 :

   I spend the majority of my time outside reading, writing, playing, and planting. I love acting a complete full and public, and I mean, a complete fool, which is why I’m rarely allowed to go into the grocery store. As your Beard at cohost. I live for life’s mysteries, hidden knowledge and mind bending theories. I vow to explore deep into the information cosmos and ask those edgy generational and cultural blending questions that weigh heavily on our minds. I met Joel what middle school? He had long hair, long Brown hair. And for what I remember the only kid in school with what seemed to be scruffy Beard people said he seemed to let resemble Jesus. I don’t really remember meeting him. We were always just there. Once our groups of friends started mingling Joel would you like to say anything a little bit to our viewers or our guests about how we met and maybe a little bit about yourself? 

Joel    00:02:50 :

    Well, I honestly don’t remember how I met and the only reason I really had long hair and middle school or whatever is because when you do drugs, you don’t groom. Those two things just go hand in hand. Um, I am not Farley near as interesting, but in short, I am an academic and marketing director for a series of radio stations in the Southeast of Florida. And I’m an asshole and yeah, really, I’m just kinda here to, I enjoy talking about complex ideas and, and complex thoughts and whatnot. And I honestly just like to pull, poke holes and to anything that I here and basically, you know, I’m like Steven Crowder has changed my mind all the time. Basically. That’s kind of pretty much how most of my conversations go. Um, but for you of my, I have quite a bit of life experience and pretty cool and interesting, funny stories to share and funny input to share, so that’s why I’m here. And today we’re going to meet talking with Jay the Unknown and then you’ll notice in that very nice fancy intro. We have there, we have the big NPR budget, hence the whole ASMR tone and the beginning of the Podcast. So we have an actual intro song and we are essentially interviewing that artist today. 

Britain    00:04:26 :

   Also we will be launching with this episode, our website, social medias, that includes Instagram, Twitter, and a Facebook page. That will be Beardxbrain.com. And that’s coming at you at once this, uh, I guess it’s when you’re hearing this it’ll be live. So stop there for a landing page, uh, for Beard X Brain we’re going to have, uh, blogs. We’ll try to put some content of our own writing, where you guys can get a little bit more insight to our brains. I’ll, I’ll put some pictures and my Beard on there and my else Beard fans, we’ll talk about Beard oil’s and such, but that’s where you’ll be able to find us

Joel    00:05:14 :

   (Inaudible)

Britain   00:05:17 :

    What’s that Joel?

Joel    00:05:19 :

    I’ll share my old glamour Beard photos.

Britain    00:05:22  :

  You got to grow it out, man. I’m growing my hair out too. So I’ll be sharing some updates on that this Vikings coming out, Scandinavians coming out. So that’s where we’re going to, that’s where we’re going to be able to be located at we’re going to have her own RSS feed on our own website. And then you’ll also be able to find us on, um, probably Google Podcast and all the leading, uh, you know, audio apps. So hopefully we’ll be able to, yeah, hopefully will be able to slide into your DM’S more or less, or at you’re a frequented Podcast. 

Britain    00:06:00  :

  So now that, that shit’s out of the way, boys,  Let’s introduce our guest Jay Da Unknown

Jay    00:06:08:

   Yooo

Britain   00:06:10  :

Welcome to Beard and Brain my man. 

Jay    00:06:12:

   Yo yo, what’s up. Y’all how are, y’all doing?

Britain   00:06:15 :

  Really good, actually… (fart)

Joel    00:06:18 :

  Very good, man. It’s enjoying actual fall weather for ones here in Florida. It’s literally only nice for three months out of the year. So we have decent weather…

Jay    00:06:26 :

  Aww man I bet… Man I would rather be down in Florida than Louisville right now to be honest with you

Joel    00:06:37 :

 Haha I’m sure I I’m, I’m always mixed. Like I like the summers in Louisville and I like the fall in Louisville. I absolutely hate the cold and the winter

Jay    00:06:46 :   

 Man cold in the winter here in Louisville

Britain    00:06:49    

 I am 100% on summer

Jay    00:06:50    

 Man Louisville’s winters pain, in the ass dog. I would rather be in Florida be by the beach posted go sw-. fishing. You know what I mean? I’ll be doing right now.

Joel    00:07:05    

 Oh yeah, It is nice. We have a lot of cool shit to do. And you know, there’s a lot of like Springs and stuff. I actually live next to a Springs. So we go out there pretty often.

Jay    00:07:13    

 Oh okay, Yeah. I’ve been down there twice. I’ve been down to Panama City, Pensacola though, my favorite Pensacola, man, Pensacola. Beautiful. It’s whole different different vibe out there

Joel    00:07:26    

 Oh yeah Pensacola is absolutely amazing….. But if you ever make it down to Daytona you’re welcome. You’re welcome here.

Jay    00:07:34    

 Hell yeah, man. I appreciate that.

Britain   00:07:37    

 Absolutely. 

Britain    00:07:39    

 Well, welcome to Beard and Brain again, this is our very first episode, so it’s a pleasure having you on here, man. And honestly, the intro music that you hear and the outro music that you hear was done by yours, truly our man here. So hit it up 

Jay    00:07:54    

 Jaydaunknown Yup

Jay    00:07:55    

 You ever needs some beats. Holler at your boy. 

Britain    00:07:57    

 Why dont you tell our uh yeah why don’t you tell our listeners where they can find you real quick? And then we’ll segway in a little bit about your music, man.  

Jay    00:08:04    

 You guys can, you can find me on YouTube. J….  just J, Da. D.A. Unknown and that goes for Band Camp and for my Sound Cloud, my Instagram. Britain will put all the information down and description. So it would just be easy that way. 

Britain    00:08:22    

 Yeah, absolutely. That way, if you guys didn’t hear it it’s J. D.A. so this is the letter J Da Unknown and hes uh, on YouTube. That’d be Band Camp. And, uh, again, I will have that all down in the description to make it easy for you guys, 

Jay    00:08:37    

 For sure.   

Britain    00:08:39   

 So I’m gonna just ask some basic questions, man. Oh, sorry. Joel go ahead. 

Joel    00:08:44    

 Well I was gonna, we’ll will edit that out but I was gonna say you can go to BeardXBrain.com/Podcast and get transcripts for all show notes and all shows.

Britain    00:08:58    

 Excellent. You heard it first there. So Jay uh, you are from here in Louisville, correct?

Jay    00:09:04    

 Yeah, born and raised.

Britain    00:09:07    

 Awesome. Awesome. So you, uh, so you grew up with, um, you know, a music influence, uh, tell me a little bit about where you got that music influence. Exactly.

Jay    00:09:15    

 Man it all happened when I was a little kid man. Like I would just like grab some pots and pans and started making my own rhythm and stuff like that. My mom was just like, I’m going to go ahead and put him in violin or something like classes like that. You know what I mean? And I was, I was in violin, Viola, what would that, what would that classroom be? Orchestra, right? Yeah. Orchestra orchestra from like the third grade up to like the sixth grade. And then from there I just stopped playing with music, but I felt like music has always been a THING for me. Like I haven’t really took it serious until, you know, all of this locked down around the viruses such as when I was I’m taking serious. 

Britain    00:10:01    

 Oh, okay.

Joel    00:10:03    

 That’s whats up

Britain    00:10:05    

 So from…

Jay    00:10:05    

 Yeah

Britain    00:10:05    

 So from an early age, you’ve got that influence from your mom kind of pushing you towards that, which is awesome.

Jay     00:10:10    

 Yeah, man

Britain    00:10:11    

 I feel like we all get our starts from our moms. Uh, obviously, you know,

Jay     00:10:17    

 Most definitely

Britain    00:10:18    

 I think I think I think not just literally I’m thinking figuratively mainly here. So, you know, mom’s definitely pushed us to be the men that, you know, they want to see in the world.

Jay    00:10:28    

 Right. And my dad…

Britain    00:10:30    

 You know, pushing you in your art is great.

Jay    00:10:32    

 Oh yeah, man. My dad never really did that for…

[Jay cuts out]

[Silence]    00:10:37

[Womp…womp…womp + crickets]    00:10:40

Britain    00:10:40    

 Whoop… Jay you there? We, we got some technical difficulties on our first.

[Jay cuts back in]    00:10:46

Britain    00:10:47    

 Oh, there we go

Jay    00:10:48    

 Can you all hear me?

Britain    00:10:48    

 Coming in and out. Yep. There you are.

 Jay    00:10:51    

 Can you hear me loud and clear though?

Britain    00:10:53    

 Yep. Loud and clear boss.

Jay    00:10:55    

 Cool, cool.

Britain    00:10:55    

 Sorry about that.

Jay    00:10:56    

 All good.

Joel    00:10:58    

 Yeah so your saying your dad uh didn’t really support it much or…

Jay    00:11:02    

 No, he really did, man. He was, it was just, I don’t know. He was really never like a good male figure in my life. You know what I mean? My mom had to be the dad and mom do. uh do both of those roles for me. So without my mom pushing me, especially to where I am now, man music would have not been a thing for me. I probably would have been doing something else to be quite honest.

Joel    00:11:29    

 No, that’s completely understood. So when you did the kind of classical training and the first few years, have you, is any of that classical training, like carried over into your music now?

Jay    00:11:39    

 You know, like I’ve been wanting to like experiment with that, especially with like violin, Viola, adding some of that noise to my beats. That’s something I’ve been quite interested to do, but I’ll need to invest in an actual instrument to do so. Yeah. And how to like transfer all of those sounds to my digital audio workstation work and see how it works, you know?

Joel    00:12:06    

 No, definitely. I think it’d be pretty cool.

Jay    00:12:07    

 Aw yeah

Joel    00:12:08    

 Uh, and one thing I really appreciate about, you know, your music, it really, it really fits at a kind of early nineties vibe where we’re like in the middle of like grunge and hip hop, like, and see and what not

Jay    00:12:21    

 Aw yeah most definitely especially with the twist of jazz.

Joel    00:12:29    

 Yeah, no, I dig it a lot. Um, I think it’s, it’s really unique and it’s very appropriately at times because you know, it has that kind of late eighties, early nineties kind of feel and almost has that Sci-fi undertone and now, you know, it very well when I heard what you made for us. It very well could have been like the equivalent, a-like stranger things like theme intro song and kinda deal really dug it.

Jay    00:13:00    

 Yeah. Haha.

Britain    00:13:03    

 I uh gave him like some basic, uh, you know, things we’re going to be talking about on the Podcast down the road. Uh we’ll we’re going to eventually take the Podcast where we’d like to take the Podcast and uh, you know, some, some of our favorite influences and even yours too. I knew that, you know, you like you like uh Behold A Pale Horse.

Jay    00:13:24    

 Oh yeah,

Britain    00:13:24    

 Of course, we are uh…

Jay    00:13:25    

 Definitely. That’s the truth right there. I recommend that book to everybody.

Britain    00:13:26    

 RIP William Cooper……….Yeah go pick up a copy of William Cooper’s behold, a pale horse. Um, and you get to hear him and our intro music every time. And then you get some little scary daddy Bush at the end, talking about his little new world order project that, uh, and I think still influences you know, us today.

Jay    00:13:51    

 Most definitely

Britain    00:13:52    

 So uh I got it. Question for you. Um, you said something about, you know, your mom being your, um, your, you know, both parents, you know, while you were growing up and I kind of vibe with that, not in the sense that my father wasn’t around, but my father worked quite a bit, both of my parents, like I said, own both their own businesses. So mom had the luxury of only having to work about a third of the time and she stayed home with us. And, uh, she did a lot of the disciplining and a lot of the rearing when it came to two boys, you know, me and my brother and my older sister. So, uh, with that being said, I kind of relate to that. Where, where did your influence in the music come from your mom? Like what parts of the music may be? Can we pull out of that being your mom’s influence? I want to dive into that.

Jay    00:14:46    

 Oh man, jazz, jazz music, man, jazz.

Britain    00:14:49    

 Mmm…Tell me more brother. 

Jay    00:14:52    

 I grew up on Paul, Paul Hardcastle, Steve Laurie, Warren Hill, all of the, all the great jazz artists man. And I, yeah, I’ll be listened to that. She always put the jazz station and whenever I go for a doctor’s appointment and all the time back then they will always play the jazz music too. And the waiting room, I’ll be like, man, like I love about jazz, this song about jazz that I love. And then, like I say, man, is that what I was saying?

Joel    00:15:26    

 Nah I was saying I’m right there with you, man. I love some old jazz. It just makes you feel good

Jay    00:15:34    

 Hell yeah. Dog. Not a day pass by where I don’t listen to jazz. Jazz is always playing and I’m. 

Britain    00:15:42    

 So, so was your mother a big jazz fan or was this something like you all were, you know

Jay    00:15:45    

 She would listen to jazz she would listen to like the Beatles, like all the classical stuff, but it wasn’t always mostly like jazz and Spanish music too.

Britain    00:15:55    

 Awesome.

Joel    00:15:56    

 That’s cool

Britain    00:15:58    

 Awesome. So I’ve got to also ask since we’re on the influences here, what’s up a three six mafia bro.

Jay    00:16:06    

 Three, six mafia, man. All right. So first time I ever, ever listened to three, six mafia, I mean, pretty sure it was, everybody was stay fly. I remember why the world premiere on MTV back in October. And I was like, man, at that time I was a kid. So I was just like, man, I just thought there were a new group and I’ll just bump in their music. Yeah. And then years, six, seven years later, I had this home boy, he showed me one of the three, six mafias oldest songs

Britain    00:16:42    

 See me. See that’s where I’m at.

Jay    00:16:44    

 Yeah. And I was just like, damn three, six mafia in 1995. I was like, nah, that’s not possible. And I was, Oh yeah, man. I listened to mystic styles for the first time. I was like, Holy shit. Like, 

Britain    00:16:57    

 Alright bro im probably going to take it back on you? Then? My shit, three, six mafia to me, boy, that is going to be chapter two, world domination that is my shit.

Jay    00:17:08    

 Hell yeah. Chapter 1 Chapter 2

Britain    00:17:12    

 That’s where it all started for me all the way back to the baby mama all the way back in the two way free days All that shit dude.

Jay    00:17:18    

 Chickenhead

Britain    00:17:18   

 Yes! Yesir. That old school shit.

[Laughter]

Britain    00:17:23    

 That’s coming out, heavy up in the music to and I think what makes it is that three, six Memphis style trap vibe mixed with that sweet, sweet saxophone and those jazzy jazzy vibes here. And I’m telling you it’s awesome.

Jay    00:17:38    

 It makes a difference going, man. It’s a different style man. Like, yeah. There’s some more cats who does the type of music I’ve made, but every producer has their own style. Me mine is more like laid back retro lo-fi you know what I mean? That’s just my style.

Britain    00:17:56    

 You got that lo-fi jazz man. And that definitely stands out. That’s what’s standing out. You know what I mean?

Jay    00:18:00    

 I appreciate that man.

Joel    00:18:01    

 And that’s one thing that i absolutely love about it is because you know, everybody’s trying to be on the other end of the spectrum and be out there aggressive in your face and stuff, but like most definitely, you know, it’s just like jazz, like know jazz is one of those things where you listen to it over the course of like an hour or so as a pure enjoyment and kind of like, um, you know, a, visceral kind of, you know, enjoyment and feeling from listening to it it’s not something that you just put it on in passing, like just driving into the gas station, some shit like that.

Jay    00:18:35    

 Right.

Joel    00:18:39    

 Whereas like other stuff, but on the other end of the spectrum is like the majority of the, you know, kind of mumble rap thing that we hear today, it’s all kind of like quick, it’s basically like pop fucking junkie rap nowadays.

Jay    00:18:52    

 Yeah. I’m not too big on mumble rap mumble rap to me is just garbage. It’s just, there’s no creativity or originality and that’s all this guy sounds like this cat, you know what I mean?

Joel    00:19:07    

 Right. And I mean, I won’t lie. Like I enjoy some of it, you know, some of the Trinity shit ill here it and stuff, but it’s just not my vibe. And that’s when they told me to you, is that lo-fi kind of feel. Um, and I don’t know how to explain it, like listening, like jazz and more lo-fi music is like, when you start getting like really tipsy and that’s when you start like really being stupid, like it puts me back on that level. 

Jay    00:19:34    

 Oh yeah, man. Especially when you smoke and the joint to it, man, MAN, lay back and relax for room.

Joel    00:19:42    

 Yeah for real, so, um, what other influences do you have aside from You know, the three, six mafia and kind of, you know, you had this kind of retro vibe and whatnot. I mean, uh, what, what kind of like, is it more about like your routine as far as doing, do you just like dedicate X amount of time a day to, you know, put in to create more music? Or do you just kind of go on based on how you feel in any given moment? I mean, do you have a structure just kind of..

Jay    00:20:13    

 I pretty much do it everyday, bro, like, like, like, like, like for example, like on my days off, when I wake up make music and then between it…see. With me, I don’t, I don’t be stuck on one beat. I’ll just save it and come back to that later and work on the next feat. Just like how Pac was when he was making raps. If he couldn’t finish that song and he’ll save it and he’ll come back later and work onto the next one, because the majority of producers downfall these days is that they stay stuck on one track and you shouldn’t stay on one track for hours upon hours. You want to go ahead and keep working on next stuff. You know what I mean? And then

Joel    00:20:51    

 Yeah that makes sense

Jay    00:20:53    

 Yeah, like after I get done with the session, I’ll go ahead and just take my little smoke break. My smoke breaks take like one to two hours at the most. And I just listen to nothing but jazz music walk around smoke, you know what I mean? Just get some inspiration, not only the jazz, they’re all different type of genre music and then when I’m at work, I just put my headphones on, listen to jazz music, man, pretty much on working and also working and my other job. You feel me?

Joel    00:21:25    

 Yeah Yeah, for real. So it kind of sounds like, you know, a really big influence on the jazz side is you really use a lot of improvisation when you’re creating your

Jay    00:21:35    

 Oh yeah. Oh Yeah

Joel    00:21:43    

 Yeah Yeah That’s pretty cool. Um, I guess my next question to kind of follow up with that is, uh, do you have any like weird habits or anything you have to do to kind of get into that vibe? Like a good example for me would be like every single morning I have to do a series of certain things and I can’t communicate it for like an hour and a half just to, in order for me to start my day effectively. Otherwise I’m shit the rest of the day. Do you have anything to prepare for? You’re making music and shit like that?

Jay    00:21:10    

 Man, just smoke weed. Haha That’s all really.

[Inaudible]

Jay    00:22:20    

 Yeah. Dawg, like I like to smoke before I get into my session because it puts me into like creativity mode sober-minded I was still, I was still have that ability create like be creative, but once I’m like, high man, that’s when I’m like to a whole different dimension or frequency that’s when I just come up with different ideas of what I would how would this song like this, you know what I mean? Stuff like that. (Yeah.) I like to, that’s just, this is me. 

Britain    00:22:49    

 I definitely think there’s something more to that as well. Since you mentioned that, what can I take it a little left field or right field wherever, wherever we want to go. We’re growing outer space, but I think that to the creative process and, and your rituals, um, I think it’s fair to say that it definitely gets you on a different vibration.

Jay    00:23:13    

 Most definitely.

Britain    00:23:14    

 And anybody that, you know, probably smokes will probably be able to relate to what I’m talking about as far as vibration, but it’s um, it’s, it’s definitely an awakening.

Jay    00:23:27    

 Oh yeah.

Britain    00:23:28    

 I was deaf. So I kinda, I kinda, I kinda liked that, that you have your own ritual before you do your music and that you’ve got a lot amount of time that you set for yourself for your mind to relax and to recoup, you know, to de-s.. you know, sensitize yourself from all that stimulation whilst you’re giving yourself and then

Jay    00:23:49    

 Yup. I agree.

Britain    00:23:50    

 You know, unpack everything, you know?

Jay    00:23:53    

 Right.

Britain    00:23:54    

 So I definitely, I definitely vibed with that. Oh yeah. I think it’s crucial.

Jay    00:23:58    

 Appreciate the man. Yeah, man, like I’m dedicated to this man. Like I said, if, if it wasn’t for like the coronavirus lock down, I would have not released led light expelled darkness or what I’ve released playalistic harmony I’ll probably would have just been fucking around with it, you know? But yeah. Thanks to the lockdown. Yeah.

Britain    00:24:20    

 Yeah. Since you say that to ’em since led came out first, why don’t you go into a little bit about light expels darkness? Kind of tell us about maybe just a little bit about, cause we know about the original we know about the influences. Tell us a little bit about that project, maybe where you were, when that that project came around and then, uh, maybe slide and segue into, uh, your, your playlist of harmony, which is my friend you’ve got something there.

Joel    00:24:49    

 Yeah. For real.

Jay    00:24:53    

 I appreciate the well LED I like how it, it was like abbreviated the light expels darkness. All my music is going to bring light and says the whole darkness that was going on during like March and April, especially when people’s going fucking crazy out of their minds with the whole lock down and think it was the end of the world. But you know, I was like, you know what, in order to calm down the vibrations of everybody, you gotta, you gotta put in a specific type of frequency that will calm it, relax the soul. You know what I mean? That’s why I had an added Jazz. And then on top of that, people like traps. So making jazz and trap together will smoothed, the Soul, you know what I mean? So it was really like, and that was like the meaning behind L.E.D., you know, like my music just bringing light into the darkness of the world. 

Britain    00:25:51    

 I definitely vibe, with that,

Jay    00:25:54    

 And then playalistic man like that whole tape is non-but like laid back music for like players and pimps and macks to listen to, because I was just, you know, back in the day in the nineties, like Memphis rap, they all play, they sample similar samples that I use. That’s why it has that playalistic feel to it You know what I mean?

Britain    00:26:20    

 Right.

Jay    00:26:21    

 Playalistic just, just laid back, man. Just laid back.

Britain    00:26:26    

 So playalistic harmony bro, it’s it’s got my girlfriend’s name in it, Harmony, and yeah. So, so I’m definitely, I vibed with it to begin with. And, and there’s a certain track in it that harmony loves that, that he says P. I. M. P.

Jay    00:26:46    

 Aw the first track. Yeah Yeah.

Britain    00:26:47    

 Yes sir.. Put it in my pocket. tell me a little bit more about those samples man. 

Jay    00:26:58    

 Those samples see originally that track was named playalistic harmony. That was way before I was going to come up with the fifth tape. So what happened was like, I found that sample on my YouTube recommended section one time, it was just this pimp giving out some advices and stuff and I’ve heard it. And the part where it got me interested was there’s a virus going on. It’s called the hating virus. You know what I mean? And I was like, what? Like if I, if I sampled it, put it on, put it on, you know, on the beat, it will match with all that shit going on because there is a lot of hating going on the world right now, a lot of hate. And there is a virus quote, unquote virus going on. So I was just like, you know what, why not throw it on the track? They’re on the track posted on YouTube, got a lot of good feedback out of it. I don’t know why my, well, that was like a rough draft. I wasn’t going to be like the final product. I don’t know why my highest decided to put a rough draft on YouTube and you know, thinking it was going to be the final version, but it wasn’t. So it gave me like, can you hear me?

Britain    00:28:17    

 Oh yeah, we got you.

Jay    00:28:18    

 So it gave me an idea. So you know what? I liked the name playalistic harmony. Why not make it as a beat? So as a beat tape and yeah, from there it’s history man, and the numbers likes it. Just keep rising up day by day.

Britain   00:28:36    

 I’m loving it.

Jay    00:28:36    

 Yeah, man, like this, this is definitely going to surpass led cause led it took like three, yeah. Two to three months to get to like 1000 view. This one was like nearly like 400 numbers away to being a thousand. So it’s not bad, man. All my hard work is putting and it’s not going to happen overnight. It’s going to take time and patience as I’ve always, you know? 

Britain    00:29:05    

 Oh yeah. I love the fact LED’s lingering around back there as, as almost like an underground tape. And so it can, it can stay that way and honestly, I love that.

Jay    00:29:14    

 Me too, bro. 

Britain    00:29:15    

 I heard that tape second. Honestly, I heard that after playalistic harmony. So I’m, I’m almost sad that I did, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles

Jay    00:29:25    

 LEDs. Is my all time favorite, all my buddies, they love led. They all got a copy of it. So yeah. I appreciate the tape, man. I appreciate you for your support dog. For real. Yeah. Like 

Joel    00:29:42    

 I got a side note, I was going to say, and this is just a side note. Um, yeah, you have to email on the outside and um, we have the same way. I was just trying to look it up to figure out what the hell it’s called. But we do this thing on one of our radio stations. We w we have the main hip hop station here for like central Florida area. Um, and we do a second once a week. It’s like, uh, find new artists or some shit like that. So you have to get me over what you were to submit and I’ll put you in on there.

Jay    00:30:13    

 Hey man, I’m definitely down. Have Britain send me. You have, Britain send me your info and I’ll send you, I will send some tracks you tonight.

Joel    00:30:25    

 Alright

Britain    00:30:25    

 Absolutely,

Jay    00:30:29    

 Definitely appreciate it a lot.

Joel    00:30:31    

 Um, and we’re eyes are going and course I think one of the managers there, and he’s really hardcore into jazz and stuff too. He’s driven new Orleans. If you ever get a chance, I don’t know if you’ve been there now, but there’s this, there’s this road called Frenchmen street and new Orleans. And it’s nothing but jazz clubs and like delicious food. And it is, you go there any time, man. And it’s just, you know, street musicians, playing jazz and random people getting together their instruments and just, it’s just such

Jay    00:31:05    

 That’s amazing.

Joel    00:31:06    

 And it’s so great. You have to check it out something.

Jay    00:31:09   

 I might have to check that out, man. I’m definitely want to check that out. Cause I’m, I’m a sucker for jazz. I love jazz music a lot. 

Joel    00:31:17    

 Yeah, man. And you’d be surprised like how cheap it is to go there. Like I’ve never spent more than like $300. It’s been four or five days there really damn near he’s like I found some bad-ass and me and he’s there. I went there once with. And have you ever seen that show? ’em dear white people on Netflix?

Jay    00:31:38    

 No, I don’t think so. I’ll be honest with you guys. Like I rarely watch Netflix or keep up of anything. That’s new. I’m mostly just like now I’m just talking music, and..

Britain    00:31:51    

 Dude. I respect that. And uh, I mean, I hate to say that, but stay that way

Jay    00:31:55    

 I feel it dog, man.

Britain    00:31:57    

 Like as long as you’re vibing that and you’re feeling that inspiration to do that. Go with the flow.

Jay    00:32:01    

 Like I don’t like adding like all that negative, negative, negative frequency from social media. If I, if I spend any time or any of my energy into that, that’s going to affect me musically. You know what I mean?

Britain    00:32:17    

 Oh yeah. And we’ll get into that a little bit more on our last topic here. What was that?

Joel    00:32:23    

 No, I’m saying you’re very smart to do so.

Jay    00:32:26    

 Oh yeah.

Britain    00:32:27   

 I agree. Well, as a, as far as your music goes, man, we’ve gone through led light expels darkness. That’s going to be your underground tape. I’m I’m so excited. Yeah. And then you’ve got playalistic harmony, uh, upcoming projects. You got anything upcoming that you can, that you can share with us?  You got anything on the shelf?

Jay    00:32:48    

 Yeah. This is going to be filled with a lot of treats for y’all. So by mid..

Britain    00:32:57    

 Ewww treats in October

Jay    00:32:58    

 Trick or treat. Hahah [That’s right!] Alright, so check it out. So mid-October, I’m going to be posting a track for my six beat tape. I’m dropping my six beat tape on December six reason. Reason why it’s my birthday and then it matches with the six tape. You know what I mean? I haven’t came up with a title for it yet. It might be called the sixth sense. Something. I haven’t, I haven’t came up the title yet, but I’m going to have a track. That’s going to promote from a six from my six beat tape. And then on Halloween day, I’m going to have an EP that’s going to be called. The other side of the moon its going to be a collaboration with me. And Douglas. Douglas is another dope producer out of Colorado. He’s fucking amazing. He doesn’t use like digital audio workstation, like FL studio, none of that. He dude, he goes back to like nineties. He use a lot of drum machines four, eight track cassette tapes. You know what I mean? Like I’ll recommend.

Britain    00:34:04    

 That’s definitely legit

Jay    00:34:02    

 Hell yea dude his beats. It brings you back into like the nineties underground Memphis era. like, yeah man, like if he was in Memphis during that time, it would have been the rich motherfucker. He would have been rich. So I got that EP. That’s going to be probably like a 12 track tape. I’m always going to release physicals. And I also, I think tonight I’m going to release a track with my homie Syko rich. Syko Rich’s another rapper out of Nashville. He is fucking dope. He is amazing. But I also gonna have an EP tape with them It’s only going to be a six track tape. It ain’t going to be that long. But if you want to listen to some stuff from Syko Rich, you can look them up over on Instagram. I’ll put on. I will give Britain all the details to look up him, look him up because he he’s another amazing rapper another amazing upcoming Rapper.

Britain    00:35:04    

 Absolutely And so I take my notes, two brother, so yeah.

Jay    00:35:06    

 Oh yeah man.

Britain    00:35:07    

 Absolutely.

Jay    00:35:08    

 Like I said, I got the six beat tapes coming up in December six and that’s pretty much it and probably along the way, I’ll have more collaboration projects now for 2021, there’s going to be a lot more. There’ll be a lot more 

Britain    00:35:23    

 Awesome. I love that looking forward. And so you heard it first here, upcoming projects. mid-October track from the sixth beat tape coming December six. So then you’ve got a Halloween day, comes an EAP called other of the moon with Douglas. And then today, October 1st, a psycho rich Nashville EAP, six track tape coming soon. 

Jay    00:35:46    

 Yes, sir. All of them going to get physicals. 

Britain    00:35:52    

 Well, we’ll get all that down though in the bio. So 

Jay    00:35:55    

 Sure. All of them release is going to have a physical cassette tape. And if you guys are interested in one, you better, you better cop one ASAP because they’re not going to be no repress 

Britain    00:36:06    

 Definitely linked me up with something like that. Cause I hate to miss out on anything almost like when it comes to these music physicals man, because underground is my scene and honestly I hate them. I hate the mainstream, so I gotta get in on the physical. 

Jay    00:36:21    

 Oh. And I also got one tape. Well it’s not my tape. It’s from my homie old school. Danny B it’s called satanical values. It’s amazing. I really recommend it. He only has 20 copies live also.

Britain    00:36:37    

 What’s it What’s it called?

Jay    00:36:39    

 The satanical values. He’s from Las Vegas, Nevada man. And it’s all like laid back G funk type of sound. You know what I mean? It’s really dope. I recommend, I recommend y’all getting a copy. It’s really dope. I got myself two cops. 

Britain    00:36:55    

 Oh for sure, dude. I definitely, I got a note of that. Satanical values. You say he’s from Las Vegas, Nevada. [Yep] Awesome, man. Appreciate it. So I guess, uh, tell our viewers real quick. 

Joel    00:37:07    

 Oh, go ahead. Dovetail on that. I mean you seem to, you know, communicate and work with a lot of people from all over the country that is pretty inspiring. Like for any musicians out there or anything like that is, you know, do you have any advice to that? Like how do you, how did you find such a broad community?

Jay    00:37:26    

 You see man, like see with Danny, like I met Danny years ago. It was 2013 to like a three, six mafia forum page and me and him are related on a lot of stuff and we was cool. And you know, that, that happened ever since then. And me and him are working on a EP project. Well, an album is going to come out next year and

Britain    00:37:55    

 So your vibing out with your, you know, kind of some of your inspiration, some of the music, like you’re vibing out on those pages with those cliques

Jay    00:37:55    

 Most definitely

Joel    00:38:04    

 Im excited to hear that there is a three six mafia forum

Jay    00:38:12    

 Yeah, dude like it’s cool, man. You got mafia forums, underground Memphis forums. And with the help of like social media, the only good thing about social media I can say is that you can connect and link with people from other States or country and you can work with music and stuff like that. And it’s pretty dope because back in the days, it wasn’t like that you have to go visit them, get studio in session. You know what I mean? And all the nine yards and it’s not like that. Now you can just send a file through.

Britain    00:38:45    

 The Internet’s paved the way shit, man.

Jay    00:38:46    

 Exactly. And you see the sad thing is that the local scene is really dying is not, it’s not as popping as it is now. Back then, like yeah, you, you, you still get local recognition you still get like local fame, but nowadays is the, Internet’s where it’s at. You know, the internet is really where it’s at right now for money local. You can’t really make no money and stuff like that. That’s what I’ve noticed a lot lately. And it’s pretty like, Whoa,

Britain    00:39:17    

 But you got to keep the tradition hip hop.

Jay    00:39:18    

 Oh yeah.

Britain    00:39:18    

 You gotta keep that mix tape mindset.

Jay    00:39:21    

 Most Definitely.

Britain    00:39:21    

 You gotta keep that music definitely. And you got to keep it alive, man. So, and you’re doing that and uh, hats off to you and I appreciate that, bro. Keep it up. Uh Joel did you want to ask him any more questions about where we were at with, um, you know, old school, Danny B and M anything coming up, maybe for him in 2021 before we go into where, you know, one last stitch where we can find this stuff. 

Joel    00:39:45    

 No, man. I’m good. I mean very, very fun.

Britain    00:39:51    

 Awesome brother. Well, why don’t you tell us one last time where he can, wherever I can find your music, man. And we’ll, we’ll actually, uh, hit on some things you said about social media.

Jay    00:39:59 

 Sure Most definitely. You can follow me on YouTube. Letter J space Da D.A Unknown follow me on there. And there you can find me on Sound Cloud, Instagram, Bang Camp, all spelled the same way. I guess I’m going to have my man Britain right. All scription, all of that information to the description and you guys can follow me.

Britain    00:40:18    

 Absolutely.

Joel    00:40:19    

 Perfect.

Britain    00:40:20    

 Awesome. So here we go. Next segment. Our last portion of it here, it is a election year guys. We all do know that and it’s creeping up on one month almost. Yeah. And um, social media is outrageous and has been, and it’s also, uh, I mean I say social media, let’s, let’s talk about, um, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube specifically let’s let’s throw out fucking Instagrams tik tok and all that bullshit for now. Um, and the influence that it has is on the masses, maybe some psychology behind that. Um, I mean, does, I mean, I’m talking brief psychology. I don’t want to sit here and try and rack anybody’s brain about what’s actually going on. But um, you know, there’s some books that I’ve seen that may have some, some play into this. We can even go down some rabbit holes briefly about, you know, does the CIA have influence on this stuff? Who knows? But um, you know, what’s your take on this election year for one, maybe your, your touch Corona briefly and then we’ll roll into social media and what you think as far as their mindset on trying to control the masses and you know, dangling carrots here, or maybe they’re trying to divide us on purpose. I don’t know. 

Jay    00:41:48    

 This is like the perfect year for them to do. All of this stuff like corona never happened. They would have at least social media. So social media was already thing that was one of their tools to like control people and put them set feeling a specific way, especially of all this controversy topics and you know, all of that. And yeah, with Corona Def they have control the masses really well yet there’s an illness going on, but it’s not as deadly as we think of this. It can just be your seasonal flu. But then again, I’ve heard cases of people dying from that ship, but people normally die from that all the time. You know what I mean? So I’m not new under the sun. So 

Britain    00:42:38    

 We’ve taken the precautions around here. Um, we don’t go around 

Joel    00:42:43    

 Like the flu is just taking a break for the last year. Like, you know what covid yall got this.. peace.

Jay    00:42:52    

 I mean we noticed last year, like the weather here in Louisville, we never had a winter like that, so I didn’t get sick at all like that so I can see why it can be creeping up right now. You know? So yeah, I mean, 

Britain    00:43:07   

 And it does this every year. So, you know, we don’t really even know if there’s one strain. I don’t know 

Jay    00:43:15    

 At this point 

Britain    00:43:17    

 Going around there, could be one and it could be five strains. Who knows.

Jay    00:43:21    

 Exactly. And that does point, man, you it’s just, it makes you question about a lot things and you gotta, you gotta realize, man, like we never had a lock down for the HIV virus for the age who never had all of this or even for the ebola or H1N1 we had it for Corona. So how they can control it,

Joel    00:43:44    

 Its definitely more than anything else. I mean, you look at the fucking like Scandinavian countries and shit they had in my eyes opinion, the right approach. We’re not going to shut anything down. We’re going to continue life as is and let our immune system build up to it and you know, did it, and the most stoic sense possible. Yes, of course, Americas gonna have more Deaths and lost and everything else because we’re having 300 fucking million people in the country

Jay    00:43:21    

 Exactly and some of us are gullible too. We don’t even give a fuck.

Joel    00:44:27    

 You know, we’ll have some bitch going to a gas station at two to get hohos with a fucking flu or whatever. Americans are not the brightest fucking people. And I think too, like it makes me wonder as far as the whole idea of like, is there like an external factor controlling all this? Or is it that we as a society are just that dumb and you look at what social media does to people. [Oh yeah.] I really like, even with COVID like thing, people are happy to fucking shut down for a few months got bad-ass and employment able to just kind of fuck off and actually have excuses to not go in and work physically at a location. And we get an opportunity to bitch on social media all day. I think we could, you gave everything.

Britain    00:45:18    

 Could you imagine if we were in high school when they closed down schools for like that last portion of the year, could you imagine?

Joel    00:45:26    

 I wouldn’t make it out alive? 

Jay    00:45:28    

 Me neither! Haha

Britain    00:45:29    

 Dude Here’s the shit, here’s the, here’s the, here’s the real take now dude. Joel if we were in high school still, and this and this went down, you’d be downtown protesting right now.

Joel    00:45:38    

 Oh yeah Absolutely fucking right. And then like everybody’s like that, I think everybody has like that anarchist fucking, you know, radical kind of left liberal kind of [id be with you] and then you kind of get older and you’re just like, well, I kinda don’t want to be crazy on either sides. I’m going to fall in the middle somewhere…

Jay    00:46:00    

 Right

Britain    00:46:02    

 Yeah. We both have kids. So it’s like we gotta be here to protect them. and the best example for them, you know, my, and his are both old enough to start learning about what these rights are and you know, what it means and you know, the way people are treated and that how people different, you know, people that she’s going to be grown up with that look different than her are going to be treated differently and that’s not the world that we know we all want to grow up in. So it’s, it’s a talk that we’re all having. And it’s something I think that we plan to discuss here as well. There’s definitely, maybe, maybe a conversation for another time.

Joel    00:46:39    

 I think you take the approach that like, at least with my kid, what I like to do is just like, I’m not putting all that bullshit in her head. I’m just gonna, you know, treat everybody as the reasonable human being because you’re a reasonable human being. There’s nothing else that has been more involved. You know, I think that’s the biggest thing as far as with the kids and what’s wrong with society this day is we want to have, you know, labels and actions and fucking, you know, objective 100%, you know, just be a good human and you’re pretty much solid for your whole life. 

Jay    00:47:15    

 Right. And don’t look down on our people as like lower, you know what I mean? Like this class, exactly. It’s just pure ignorance. We’re all living through that type of exactly. No matter if you’re black, white, Latino we all bleed the same, you know?

Britain    00:47:32    

 Right. And I think I’m a big part of that too. It’s a cause it’s a mental construct. So if you start to think about it as a mental construct, you look at it just almost as a character defect, it’s something that you’ve got to understand, something you’ve got to tackle and move on. That’s the wedding manifesting something worse. You just address that character defect and why you feel that way about something, dude. And you’re going to learn something about yourself and probably feel better about it. Or you’re going to realize that there’s some things that need, you know, either way. I think that it’s when you look inward in situations like that, the best thing to do is, you know, like they say its unconditional love, so you said something about social media specifically that I want to touch on, um, you said that it makes you feel a certain type of world and then it’s known yet. And it’s known to create greater activity in neural networks and like reward processing regions. So the Brain, you know, social cognition, limitation, different parts of the brain kind of spark up when you’re looking at pictures and you get things instantly and it’s rewarding and shit like that. So you’re onto something there. Um, what are your thoughts on that? Joel if you want to kind of chime in and then maybe Jay follow up Joel you there?

Joel    00:48:50    

 Oh, sorry. My shit panned out for a second. What’d you say?

Britain    00:48:52   

  No, you’re good. Um, my question was, was social media, is he, he, he got me thinking earlier about how social media makes you feel a certain type of way. And I’ve, I’ve actually read articles where they talk about the networks in your brain that spark up, or like flash up whenever you’re viewing social media, um, what are your thoughts on that? Do you think that that was done intentional or they may be exploiting that a little too much? Like the case was, uh, what was that video game fortnight where that they actually had psychologist helping them keep the Da game, you know, slightly addictive too.

Joel    00:49:30    

 I mean, that is just simply you have to, I am coming and just for context, I have a master, I have an MBA in finance. I worked in business, the executive for a company. Like I understand that it is shitty to think about, but if you have a marketing aspect though, stoic rational sense, if you want to participate in a free market, that’s part of it. And it’s up to you as the individual to think for yourself and to realize when shit’s not wrong and your Facebook the other day. And I went through the privacy settings to see what they had new man. 

Joel    00:50:17   

  I basically just hidden myself from the entire platform and Facebook cause I’ve been getting canceled lately and it’s not that hard. And it’s just cause people don’t put the energy into it. They accept any terms and agreements. And to me, like one thing is being a good human is being fucking accountable. And if you can’t be accountable for your own fucking ignorance, then you can’t bitch about what other people were doing. You only, you know, things only happen to you if you make that choice too. And as a marketer, yes, we use, I mean, I had to study social psychology, all sorts of stuff because like we call it consumer dynamics. For instance, you have a buyer cycle. I, my purchasing cycle, it starts you, everything from how to get people’s attraction all the way into after they purchase something and try to avoid, you know, um, I forget the exact word, but it’s basically like a dissonance of some sort towards your product. 

Joel    00:51:14    

 If you buy something and feel shitty afterwards. So that’s why like when you buy something from Amazon, you get notifications all the way until it’s shipped at your door. And then usually within three to five days after you get your shipment, you get another email response basically saying, Hey, did you like the product? Because we want to ensure that you were okay at the product. Everything was solid. We do that to ensure that there is no negative kind of connotation towards you purchasing that it’s all psychology. And when we use it for everything in life, I mean, we try to fucking go Mack on a chick in a bar we’re using psychology to kind of fucking trick them and thinking more of the shit. You know what I mean?

Jay    00:51:55    

 Exactly

Joel    00:51:56    

 It’s, it’s everywhere. You just can’t deny it and say that it’s fucking evil and that’s my bottom line to it. 

Jay    00:52:04    

 That’s true. What you say is completely true and see the problem with social media these days. A lot of people follow and share a lot of ignorant stuff that will cause tension like arguments, disagreements that would just, you know what I mean? This is not cool.

Britain    00:52:23    

 I’m guilty.

Jay    00:52:24    

 I mean, I feel you like some, sometimes I’ll post stuff just to have an interesting conversation. And then you have are people who go overboard, like calling names and ages and stuff. It’s just ignorant,

Britain    00:52:41    

 I try to keep it comical if it ain’t funny then I’m like, you know, and I get roasted

Joel    00:52:48    

 I have cut down on my shit. So sparingly. And then like after the debate, I made a comment to one person that I’ve known for over 20 years and I got canceled for it simply because I had a different there and it’s just like people. And then I got named Called, I got fucking messages and all sorts of crazy shit.

Jay    00:53:11    

 That’s ridiculous. Right

Joel    00:53:12    

 And I didn’t even feel

Britain    00:53:13    

 Cancel culture on social media is ridiculous right now.

Joel    00:53:17    

 It’s just so insane to me that like, you know, and especially this whole idea of like, I fall pretty much in the middle and I don’t understand how people on the left, which are primarily the loudest people on social media are sitting there, you know, being the loudest person in the room and canceling everything in the name of, you know, progression and being a better society. But you’re, you know, it’s that old adage. It’s like those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. So all you’re doing is muffling this shit that if you make your goal and nobody says a mean thing and nobody has a mean side or it’s stressful, or what the fuck ever for the rest of their lives, eventually it’s going to fucking burst and it’s going to come back to you tenfold. And then, you know, the same thing can be said for a writer just to fucking conspiracy theorist and kind of just think that the deep state and the left is just going to take over everything.… and really it’s just, everyone’s being kind of dumb.

Jay    00:54:22    

 Right and…… And what kills me though, is a lot of people in social media share a lot of fake, satire information. Like they don’t take the opportunity to like question it and be all right. Well, I heard this,

Joel    00:54:41    

 Absolutely

Jay    00:54:42    

 I’m going to find some information, see if it’s true or not, you gotta separate what salt and what’s sugar. They both look alike. They don’t taste the same. You know what I mean?

Joel    00:54:51    

 Right

Britain    00:54:51    

 100 percent agree

Jay    00:54:52    

 And a lot of people don’t don’t do that. They were just sharing like, Oh yeah, I heard from there or from Facebook and these are the same people.

Britain    00:55:00    

 Or I’m going to look at that later…

Jay    00:55:01    

 Right, These are the same. Exactly. These are the same people,

Joel    00:55:07    

 I do this shit for a living clickbait sells advertisements.

Jay    00:15:12    

 Exactly. Like they they, 

Britain    00:55:17    

 I would much rather do…, 

Jay    00:55:18    

 Actually do the information and to them as a conspiracy to use all you see on YouTube, but they actually got there the time to do the information shared, acknowledge to you, but these people share all these quote-un-quote, information it’s all bullshit, man. And that’s why it’s hard for me sometimes because I use social media just to promote my music. I don’t like to get on them and just maybe here and there, I will give like my 2 cents about how I feel, but I don’t want to continue promoting that topic because that will affect me musically, because I, you got to separate from politics and from music, you can’t keep that to the same, you know, but right now, especially with all the huge controversy going on,

Britain    00:56:00    

 Right I agree

Jay    00:56:05    

 Especially with like full police brutality, the black life matters and all of that, I’m all about the black lives matter. 

Jay    00:56:10    

 I agree with the movement, but I don’t agree with certain things. You know what I mean? I just, I’m not 100 foot down, but at the same time, I don’t like to follow any groups. You know, I don’t like falling in groups, all of this, all of this stuff going on, it’s a huge distraction to control the masses, you know, playing with there emotions and, stuff like that, you know like, (inaudible) Oh yeah. Like social media is such a perfect tool for the higher ups. to just do whatever the fuck they want to do to just get people amped up. And I am honestly will, since we’re like literally literally close to the election, something’s going to go down before or after the elections. 

Britain    00:57:00    

 I hear it’s in LA

Jay    00:57:02    

 LA.

Joel    00:57:03    

 I donno

Britain    00:57:04    

 I keep hearing people that live out there. There’s just rumblings in LA from what I have heard, 

Joel    00:57:08    

 And I wouldn’t doubt that but you gotta think with a logical perspective something’s going to happen one way or another after the election Trump’s taken out..

Britain    00:57:16    

 That’s obvious somethings always fucking happening. No matter what I mean, California is always on fucking fire

Joel    00:57:21    

 Yeah well that’s just cause they’re dumb and they don’t know how to manage money well, but like if you look at it, like if Trump is more than likely going to be reelected and all the crazy radical lefts are going to go bat shit, crazy and protests and riots are going to be insane again.

Jay    00:57:34    

 Exactly

Joel    00:57:36    

 And then if Trump And then if Trump is taken out all the fucking crazy rednecks in the world are going to come out and just be fucking bat shit crazy.

Jay    00:57:44    

 Oh yeah

Joel    00:57:44    

 I have a feeling the holidays are just gonna be insane And then, Q1 will happen and then we’ll have a fucking boom in our economy and everything will be okay

Jay    00:57:53    

 For real. But with Trump though, I feel like if he lose, he doesn’t want to give up his throne. I know that’s going to happen. He’s going to say it’s a fraud and all of that type of shit,

Joel    00:58:06    

 Maybe but he will have to fucking leave. And he is not dumb enough to go to prison to not leave. You know what I mean?

Jay    00:58:13    

 Right. Exactly. It’s just, 

Britain    00:58:17   

 Yeah I don’t know. He’s not an idiot. I think, I don’t know. I don’t think with the way shit’s going down, it seems an awful lot, like 2016 plus we saw a lot of shit go down and not a lot on unfold. And I mean, I’ve been talking to a lot of people about this viewpoint. The truth is like a lot, it’s an open to interpretation. So, you know, you may get to your truth to a different viewpoint based on your experiences. And I may have some truth about the same topic based on my experiences that are going to be completely different based on my agreement, uh, upbringing and what I’m, you know, actually going through at the time or in the moment or my vantage point from what I actually saw or whatever. So I feel like, you know, truth is up to interpretation a lot of times, you know, and science a science until it fucking isn’t. And that’s why the science is done over and over and over and over and over and over again. And then sometimes it just doesn’t work. And a lot of these leading theories, you know, that people love to just talk all this shit about, you know, they ignore so much stuff to even be a theory, you know, so science isn’t perfect it does go after and tackle a lot of awesome topics. And it is science. I mean, you can’t refute a lot of that shit, but as far as like, you know, believe in it a hundred percent, you know, you’re like religion, you know, a hundred percent into something that’s basically a cult, right? You get that cultish viewpoint. And to me, I like to have an open mind to things. I like to take a little bit of everything into account. So,

Joel    00:59:47    

 And people didn’t realize too, like things are like, just because like there’s any type of science or any type of theory, you can talk about fact in general just because it is true in that moment. and in that sample, that does not mean it’s an absolute, I mean, this is exactly why psychology in that entire field itself has become kind of shit because like all these developmental psychology things and all these studies that created what is now, you know, incorporate and, and DSM five and within the psychology practice today has more or less men debunked cause from the seventies and stuff like that. So you think about it. We don’t have huge sample sizes. A scientist have college students to be able to do experiments with, and to be able to get resources from, they don’t have the resources to get a true significant sample. So their co or Pearson coefficients are going to be high, or they’re going to be low because if you’re only sampling, you know, you only have enough money for 200 parts or 200 people for the survey or whatever. You’re never going to have an absolute answer. And I think that’s the problem with everybody in general is we’re looking for absolutes when there is none. And, and the reality is you just kind of have to interpret the data as a individual and figure out what best is going to serve you in your life for that day or that week or whatever.

Britain    01:01:14    

 I think it’s best to take through thought, you know, through logic and a little bit of theory, you know, with understanding, sitting down with multi-cultural people, different generations its going to have to be a blending of all this. And you know, people are going to have to have those conversations that are hot button and be able to not act a complete fucking fool.

Jay    01:01:36    

 Exactly.

Britain   01:01:36    

 I mean, it’s okay to talk about something and learn something new and to express yourself properly without getting fucking mad

Jay    01:01:45    

 Damn fucking right

Britain    01:01:45    

 You don’t have to call people names

Joel    01:01:47    

 Right. 

Britain    01:01:48    

 Labels are something that you got to keep out. So any kind of label has got to stay out of the picture. I mean, you can seriously talk about theory as a theory and not attach your name, your life and your entire wellbeing to that thing So that way, when it gets attacked, you feel like you’re being attacked.

Jay    01:02:05    

 Exactly

Joel    01:02:05    

 Right.

Jay    01:02:06    

 Like me, me and my, me and my buddy, me and him will have a lot of the controversial topics to talk about. We never, like, we’ll never go off on each other one will have one belief and I’ll have the other belief and just have understand each side. 

Jay    01:02:20    

 And so like you said, calling them names or, you know what I mean? Like that’s what society is consists of now. Like if you don’t, if they don’t agree with you about something, then, then fuck them your opinion. Don’t matter. My opinion matters. You know what I mean? Like this is what society is built on these days and it’s ridiculous, you know? Like we’re all entitled to expressing ourselves whether you believe it or not. You know,

Joel    01:02:47    

 I think it’s funny to…

Britain    01:02:48    

 They need to take some mushrooms.

Jay    01:02:49    

 Exactly.

Joel    01:02:51     

 No, definitely and I think it’s funny, you mentioned that because,

Jay    01:02:55    

 Or DMT

Joel    01:02:57      

 Oh God. Yes. 

Joel    01:03:00    

 Id do that right now but anyways I think that is like literally the epitome of what I talked to people about why I think there’s been such an uprising in the conservative community because the conservative community has more, a wider umbrella. That’s like, we don’t give a fuck. What other people think or anything like that. If we disagree with you, we’ll disagree with you. And that’s kind of the end of actually. And it’s just as wild to me.

Jay    01:03:28    

 It’s crazy, man. Like people are just, they’re just amped up for no reason. There’s no need to get all angry. If someone disagree or agrees with you about something, you know, like I’ve never understood why people act that way. I’m just like, man, I’m like, bye. You know, just like, okay, if he doesn’t see the same, eye to eye or something, just let it be. Not many people are going to be exactly the same person as you

Jay    01:03:55    

 And one person will have a different belief. You know what I mean? That’s just how life works because we all have the same beliefs and that’s dictatorship and dictatorship, not cool,

Britain    01:04:07    

 Nah… everybody can create their own little platform or be part of a platform and, and voice their opinion on different platforms. Streams, processes, people you know

Joel    01:04:17    

 And it doesn’t… in your daily life

Jay    01:04:21    

 Exactly, exactly, man. Like it’s just crazy how society is turned up way soon enough. The future for America is not going to be good. We’re going to, uh, this is all us people, how sensitive we are here in the States. We’re going to have the one to hold somebody’s hand or big brother. Or like bill Cooper.

Britain    01:04:43    

 Or we can educate each other.

Jay    01:04:43    

 Exactly

Britain    01:04:45    

 I think that’s a better approach you create the platform, you create a process and you, you go with it and you move and you shoot. You open source it all. You do selth-help or self-help start looking in words and you branch out words, it’s a balloon right up. You got a hand pulling yourself up. You’re pulling somebody up behind you.

Jay    01:05:09    

 Most definitely

Joel    01:05:11    

 It really is just that. Like, I really feel like the media kind of fuels all this type of side because like, even if you go to, like, I spent 

Joel    01:05:18    

 Like two months in London and they’re fucking practically, they’re halfway socialist. Right. But you go there and people are not PC at all. Like people call each other faggots and cunts and everything else. And it’s just like a big joke. You know, they’re just words and people are not easily offended over there, even though you would think they would be. But then here in America we have to, you know, be a social justice warrior and get on our high horse. Every chance we get.

Jay    01:05:48    

 Right. Exactly.

Britain    01:05:51    

 I mean, a lot of it, a lot of it truly is low vibrational thinking. And uh, when you put out low vibration, you’re going to get back low vibrational. So I think, um, I think there’s a lot of different, you know, magic out there for everybody. And it’s just a matter of finding your own magic, your own process and sticking to it. 

Britain    01:06:09    

 Good thing. Good thing is, is I’m here to help people get to that point. Um, and I think Joel and I will both have things to offer. I’d love to have you back on and talk more about that to, and dive into some conspiracies and shit like that. But also we got some self-help stuff coming up to where we can be able to help people out, understand, you know, themselves maybe better.

Jay    01:06:32    

 Most definitely. I was going to add one thing to what you were saying. Like we’re, uh, yeah, cause we’re, we’re vibe, we’re vibrational beings, you know what I mean? We react to certain vibrations. If we react to negative vibrations, then we’re going to act negative. If we’re going to react to positive and we’re going to react positive and then all your environment around you is going to be that way. You know what I mean? It’s all about how you’re sending off your vibrations. 

Joel    01:07:00    

 Absolutely

Britain    01:07:00    

 I agree. A hundred percent man.

Joel    01:07:03    

 And then tie that back into your music. It’s the same thing, with music, I mean, exactly, exactly. Trying to remember the term of it. I’m want to say it’s harmonic proportion or something like that, but it’s basically the theory in music where every sound is a mathematical number. I mean, that’s why we have, you know, four beats or whatever. I don’t know shit about music, but I just remember learning in school, but you know yeah. I mean like everything is mathematical. Everything is on a series of vibrations

Jay    01:07:35    

 Exactly it’s all on the frequencies level. You know, you have your high and low and your mid

Britain    01:07:44    

 Yeah, I think, uh, I think the entire group of, uh, collective consciousness that is the human race on this planet is going higher. They are sending hiring in consciousness and like vibrations, but I think that we’re going off slow and that, uh, you know, if we just talk about things a little bit better and try and express what we’re actually thinking, we’ll figure out that we’re probably all getting to the same place just a different times.

Joel    01:08:14    

 No, definitely. 

Britain    01:08:18    

 But I definitely greatly appreciate you coming on. We did run a little long for our first episode. Um, I’d love to have you.

Jay    01:08:25    

 Most definitely. I’m down. I’m down for future Podcast I’m down for it, man.

Britain    01:08:33    

 Absolutely. So, uh, get those, uh, you know, projects going and uh, I’m definitely going to get some pieces again. So if you want guys, uh, again, I’ll look, I’ll put it down in the bio, but you can, you can find Jay on YouTube and, and, uh, what is it Band Camp?

Jay    01:08:48    

 Band Camp SoundCloud,

Britain    01:08:50    

 SoundCloud. Uh, yeah. Any last thoughts fellas

Joel    01:08:54    

 We’ll have everything plugged in just as a reminder at Beard X Brain forward slash Podcast, you’ll be able to find this show as well as all the show notes and the transcript so that, you know, if there’s anything you want to go back to, we’ll make sure that there’s timestamps and all that. Um, but yeah, I really appreciate everything. Jay I mean, you have been a phenomenal sport. It was a great conversation. I enjoyed it.

Jay    01:09:20    

 Me too, man. I appreciate all the love to man.

Britain    01:09:27    

 Not a problem, man. Thank you all. Thank you everybody for listening to our inaugural, our very first premiere, the first episode of Beard and Brain Podcast.

Joel    01:09:39    

 We’ll look forward to next week since it’s going to be fun.

Jay    01:09:44    

 Fa sho.

Britain    01:09:45    

 Absolutely.

Joel    01:09:47    

 Alright guys…… BYE BITCHES!!! 

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Summary X Show Notes



Britain C. Griffin & Joel Hinton


Honorable Mentions:

Jeff Goldblum The Fly

Britain’s Tourrette’s


Transcript

[INTRO MUSIC]    00:00:00

I’ll tell you right now, unless we can be successful in creating a where the American people get different viewpoints. Other than those expressed in the establishment controlled media, there’s willing to be a civil war in this country and it’s going to come soon. The only thing that can stop it is by waking up bad amounts of sleeping people, following the Judas goat, right. To get to the sharing and go to the slaughter. Not to know that anything is wrong.

Joel    00:00:36

All right. Fucking gold pony boy

Britain    00:00:41

And welcome to beard and brain podcast. Where we interest.. We’re we, shit. Fuck it. We’re already fucked.

Joel    00:00:51

You already lied anyways, because you’re going to say we interview interesting people and it’s not a fact right now.

Britain    00:00:57

No, it’s definitely not a fact. Let’s, uh, let’s go on and tell you guys what happened. Uh, we had a guest scheduled and through some learning curve and technical difficulties, we will not be able to have that guest, uh, for episode two. So it’s going to be yours truly, the host, running this one. And we’ve got the, uh, guests coming back on next week, uh, hopefully to, uh, to, to do this episode that we had planned for you today. Um…

Joel    00:01:23

Yeah. Ultimately it’s your loss? Not ours.

Britain    00:01:28

Yes. I think, uh, definitely your loss. Um, but I won’t go into detail too much about that. I want to save it all for the pod next week when she comes on. So, um, anyways, welcome to beard and brain podcast. Uh, episode number two. We’ll call this one “Fuckery”… or whatever.

Joel    00:01:50

I don’t know if we can call it “Fuckery”. We’ll have to call it something more, like, “PG” that way it’ll actually show up…

Britain    00:01:56

Okay. Alright. More PG. Uh, what about “The Fuckining”?

[Laughter]    00:02:03

[That’s not more PG!]    00:02:06

Joel    00:02:07

We’ll just get on to… We’ll just get on to some type of click bait and put in “Jeff Goldblum The Fly”.

Britain    00:02:14

Jeff Goldblum McFly?

Joel    00:02:18

Well, yeah, because you know, the whole Pence debate thing last night, where everybody is like more focused on the fly on Pence’ head than anything else.

Britain    00:02:25

That’s right, dude. And you know what, and I hate to say this guys, but I’m, I’m very unprepared. I did not watch that debate last night.

Joel    00:02:34

Oh I didn’t watch either and I, I garren-damn-tee you, majority of the country did it because you know, like guys last week they set the bar for political debates, Trump and Biden. That shit was pure entertainment…

Britain    00:02:50

I one hundred percent agree.

Joel    00:02:53

No one was going to watch the vice presidential debate because Kamala Harris and Pence are just not fucking interesting people and they are boring. That’s why the fly was more important than Pence his head.

Britain    00:03:06

Honestly, I didn’t, I’m not even think about that. I, uh, I don’t know though. I feel like a lot more people watch that debate than they did the other one. So they, they say one thing and do another, maybe they did one debate and lied about it. I don’t know.

Joel    00:03:28

I don’t know. Like, I think like, to me, like those two are more divisive than the actual two main people running. Cause, Kamala Harris has an insane prosecution record and then, Pence is Pence. I mean, dude was like, I don’t even know anything about them. I just remember he was like some type of evangelical guy. That’s like anti-everything.

[Inaudible]    00:03:55

Britain    00:03:59

Yeah. That’s literally all they’re talking about is that fly landed on his head. But if you want dude, you know what, I’ll take advantage of the situation here that we’re having. Since we’re kind of on that theme today, Thursday, October, what? Eighth… Supposed to be serendipity day… Um, [Yeah] so much for that, um, fly lands on Mike Pence has had during the VP debate for two minutes, the fly up is apparently on his head for two minutes. So, the New York Times is reporting this. So that’s what we’ve come to. And, uh, Trump’s America. A fly set a top Mike Pence’ head for two minutes.

Joel    00:04:38

It is our America, it is the social media America.

Britain    00:04:43

Im down with it though

Joel    00:04:44

We love fucking clickbait. That’s just all there is to it.

Britain    00:04:49

Right? So, New York Times reports, “President Trump’s handling of the country was the elephant in the room during Wednesday’s vice-president debate. But it was a fly taking a brief break from flying that couldn’t be ignored by viewers watching the event from home”. That’s the paragraph, that’s the sentence they lead with.

[Laughter]    00:05:09

Britain    00:05:10

Yeah, dude. I mean, what else would a fly take a break from? Like, let’s go through the options real fast what else a fly could be taking a break from and go!

[Pause]

Britain    00:05:23

Flying…

Joel    00:05:26

The New York times is such a piece of shit.

Britain    00:05:28

Uh, yeah.

Joel    00:05:33

So anyways… Ultimately…

Britain    00:05:35

I’m willing to dive into that, dude. I swear.

[Inaudible]

Joel    00:05:39

Yeah.

Britain    00:05:41

Why would a fly land on him for two minutes? You know what? Alright, so flies and maggots. They thrive on yes. Decaying dead matter, decaying matter in general, it doesn’t really matter what matter. Um, but honestly, is he dead, dude? He’s probably a lizard person.

Joel    00:06:04

Man, I don’t know David Icke, I ain’t about that life. I think, David Icke, since we’re just going to go on in the fucking babbling now. Um, but David Icke is, I don’t think I could ever take the whole reptilian theory seriously because of David. Cus’ that bitch is just bat shit crazy.

Britain    00:06:26

Ah, dude, I don’t know. I think like, my opinion with that and many of those other theories is kinda like uh, I don’t know, you can have many different interpretations of it. Kind of like the Bible and other things. A lot of people are saying it’s one way or saying it the other way. Some people say take it, literally. Some people say it’s a story based on, you know, true events and somebody’s depiction, blah, blah, blah. I think that, when he says reptilian people, I think he probably, what he really means, but doesn’t want you to kind of know what it means. It’s just people that think more left brain or like really fucking low vibrational, um, reptilian brain, you know, very instinctual, very fight or flight, very, um, survival mode. You know, it’s very, I don’t know

Joel    00:07:17

So in the definition though… That very much aligns with the whole “woke” concept.

Britain    00:07:24

Ah, God damnit!

Joel    00:07:27

It does though. It’s like legit.

Britain    00:07:29

I don’t want to fucking do that. So…

[Laughter]

Britain    00:07:36

David Icke

Joel    00:07:36

I am not always going to be the person. I just disagree with everything. I am the ultimate troll and you know, things have to make complete stoic sense for me to be able to actually back something in 98% of the things that I encounter in life aren’t that…

Britain    00:07:59

So what you’re saying is, is you’re not in the belief that “reptilians are reported reptilian, humanoids that play a prominent role in fantasy science fiction, ufology and conspiracy theories popularized by David Ike.” You don’t believe that?

Joel    00:08:16

No

Britain    00:08:16

Now I’m reading from the Wikipedia page here. I don’t know shit about this really. So I got a brushing up.

Joel    00:08:21

Oh really….? You mention Reptilians…

Britain    00:08:23

I, I mean, lightly. I mean lightly just because like when I heard that and I’ve seen it on videos, I’m talking about that. I always, when you say reptilian and you relate it to somebody as far as a person or the way of thinking, I think psychology, I think of, okay, it’s really dumbed down basic…

Joel    00:08:41

Okay so yeah, yeah, so that makes complete sense

Britain    00:08:42

I don’t know why, but that’s just where I go, because those urges they’re feeding into like these people that are talking about the, I guess, lizard people are eating people and drinking their blood. Like those urges that you would have thinking on that dimension or vibration would be similar to that too, I think. They’re very instinctual driven, like sexual drive and you know, food I got to eat and then survival things like that. I think that’s very left brain and reptilian minded.

Joel    00:09:10

Right, I’m onto the whole idea that idea that, you know, I don’t, is there a possibility that some of these groups or elites or what the fuck ever exist? Sure. Probably. But as far as like anything that has any type of underlying tale, that there is like some type of mass group organization being-cat… I don’t know what the hell they are. Any of those things that are just connected throughout the entire modern society and you know, plotting all the evil in the world. I just don’t believe any of that exists because I’ve just, I have dealt with a lot of people and I’ve met a lot of people around from different areas. For the most part, people were good in and the people that are in power are usually lazy idiots. And if you ever try and managing a handful of people, it’s just so difficult as far as on a personal level, like on a high end level, like a manufacturing type of thing. Yeah. You’re just manufacturing robots and whatnot. But if to have a huge collective of people that are trying to run things, I don’t think that they’d be able to ever do that successfully because people are greedy and they’re dumb as shit. And when power gets in the way they usually mess it up, you really only have like two people in control if that was the thing.

Britain    00:10:44

Yeah. Either of them could be right. I, I like that because… you kind of question everything. Gives you the luxury of not having to create a golden rule and pencil yourself in on one theory or another. So it’s pretty smart, and, also, a lot more mysterious, a lot more. Um, I would say it opens you up to be educated a lot more. So you’re going to keep poking holes and different things and allow yourself to have different viewpoints. You know, sometimes within minutes, you know, it’s, it’s a lot it’s intense, but you know, it beats the alternative of creating a golden rule and then being proven wrong or, or being, you know, hung out to dry for it.

Joel    00:11:33

Well, man, I think it’s all purpose. I like that whole idea and experience of life is to be proved wrong like daily. Like there’s absolutely no absolutes. The moment we think that there is an absolute, something breaks that, you know, it’s just why, so why waste the energy in the emotions on that type of shit? I guess that’s kind of my philosophy mainly like I’m not even gonna bullshit most time. It’s just like, I’d rather deflect from everything and not give a shit and just poke holes into it. So it doesn’t take up any real estate within me. So I can news go on my merry way and deal with my own wild shit throughout the day.

Britain    00:12:23

Oh man, I’m kind of sad. I didn’t watch that debate. Now. I’m going to have a hit on a few points where I could have seen that damn fly land on his big old white ass head.

Joel    00:12:35

I’ve only seen the meme. So…

Britain    00:12:36

I haven’t seen any of it, dude. I haven’t been on Facebook. I’ve been a ghost. Honestly, my heads been buried in creating this podcast and getting us ready for you guys to listen and read and you know, dive in our brains, see our beards, or Joel’s lack of one. Are you going to grow that out or what?

Joel    00:12:59

I don’t know man its just so uncomfortable.

Britain    00:13:00

Oh man, I’m growing my hair out, bro. Mine was uncomfortable at first too. I, I was getting some anxiety from my mustache when it was only like, [Laughter] I don’t know why. Cause there was like nothing there and it was, I hadn’t had facial hair in a long time. And when it started coming in, there’s something about my mustache was bothering me and I was at work and I started getting really like anxious over it. And then I started thinking, well, fuck I’m at work. I can’t go home and fucking shade this. And then I started like rubbing it. And I was like more self-conscious about it. And then like, dude, within 10 or 15 minutes, I’ve started like driving myself insane, like to the point where I’m about to fucking go home and shave that. And like just, I had to bury myself into work and just start ignoring it. And like eventually it took my mind off of it and got home and just pushed through it. And now I got a massive mustache, but dude, I swear early on it fucking gave me some serious anxiety. Dude. I’ve never had anxiety from facial hair for never in my life. But that was a first.

Joel    00:14:02

Ah, that’s so funny. That is the most human thing I have ever heard.

Britain    00:14:06

Yeah, dude, I am just fickle, when it comes anxiety, I can like, I feel like im the type of dude that will…

Joel    00:14:14

Uh, anything that doesn’t like go my way or that I’m not happy about. I’ll sit there and just like saying to every worst case possible scenario in the world for hours and then like being on the way home and be like, man, I’m a huge fucking idiot and just started laughing at myself. You know what I mean?

Britain    00:14:31

It seems so unhealthy.

Joel    00:14:34

I feel like that is healthier than any other way.

Britain    00:14:38

Yeah. I agree.

Joel    00:14:38

And don’t get me wrong. I’m on the other spectrum to

Britain    00:14:45

Do what now?

Joel    00:14:47

I said, like, don’t get me wrong, I’m on the other spectrum too. As far as like being overly positive, motivated, ambitious person. That’s me from like the beginning of the day until like 11 then the rest of the day, I’m just like a, stoic… asshole. It just, you know, you can just get in just getting through, but more or less.

Britain    00:15:08

It’s gotten to the point now in my age to where I’m pretty much the same dude every day. And when I have those days, it’s there all day. Like a, it’s like an underlying like stomach ache that just doesn’t go away. And it’s in the pit of my stomach and I know I do. Here’s the thing though. It’s like, I never feel it coming. I’m always fucking blindsided with my anxiety and whatever it may be bipolar. It just, these I’ve got Tourette’s syndrome as well. And I was diagnosed with that at a young age. I’m sure you probably didn’t even know that, but I was going through my mom’s stuff and I’ve got all this. Huh?

Joel    00:15:47

You’ve always been so normal.

Britain    00:15:49

I hide the shit out of that. And that’s probably very unhealthy and is probably where a lot of that anxiety has come from. But in my older age, I’ve learned to accept it, embrace it. Hell, Harmony loves that. She’s like when you get going, your motor ticks start going off, you start clapping and fucking Hootin’ and hollerin’. And it just all a fart noises and goofy noises and cuss words and all this shit you do. And I mean, that is a trade-off. I mean, I have my…

Joel    00:16:13

I really just took that as your personality though.

Britain    00:16:16

I mean, yeah, it is. But, I mean.

Joel    00:16:18

That’s how you’ve always been.

Britain    00:16:19

Well yeah.

[Laughter]    00:16:20

Joel    00:16:21

Goofball

Britain    00:16:23

Yeah. A lot of that I think is the Tourette’s I think a lot of that is the motor ticks and stuff like that, but at a young age the ticks we’re a lot more, um, more prevalent, but now I’ve kinda got it to where its quiet, like they’re in my body or my hands or fidgets or grunts and stuff like that. It was never like arm clapping or twitching or, um, or cussing. It was always more of the motor tick. Very ADD-ish. What was your question? Sorry.

Joel    00:16:53

Nah, I was wondering like, um, so is that diagnosis at an early age? What led you into like, cause when I first met you, you were like diehard and working with, uh, I don’t know, the politically correct term to call them now, but like an autistic kids and stuff in high school.

Britain    00:17:10

Yeah, honestly. Yeah. Um, I think that came with, uh, the girl I was with at the time, my daughter’s mother and then, um, coupled with also just feeling normal there and uh, the teachers, of course that ran that class. It was called C.B.E. Community Based Education. And the teachers that ran that always were really nice and comforting and you know, of course with a disability ill gravitate towards that.

Joel    00:17:38

Yeah. That was always so funny. Cause like during the day you’d be doing that. And then at night you’d be a little fucking minion with the rest of us.

Britain    00:17:45

Right. I would even I was even in the behavior classes with Cr. Oop, I probably shouldn’t even say that guy’s name, but uh, um, we had that certain class that they would like, it was a, it was only like nine kids and it was in a certain classroom and the science wing kind of away from everybody else. So we were there for like however many blocks a day that you weren’t allowed to be in other classrooms. That’s where you’d be.

Joel    00:18:12

Yeah.

Britain    00:18:13

So we would be in there. I was only in there half days, um, for a year or two. And then when I was able to, uh, uh, toward the latter years of, my high school career, I was able to co-op so I was only at school, a half a block anyways. Uh, it got to the point where they basically were like, look, we like you. Um, we think you’re a bright kid, but like every, every third year they’re like every 31 days they were like, you cause enough chaos to make up for the last 30. And we’re like, you just gotta get outta here. So they kind of just did whatever I needed to like bare minimum to get by. I didn’t take any foreign language to graduate and you had to have so many credits. I never ended up doing that. Um, my classes…

Joel    00:18:58

I’ve taking so many Spanish classes over the years and still don’t know fucking thing.

Britain    00:19:03

Dude, I haven’t taken any. And I feel like I can tell a lot of what they’re saying just by the emotion and their body language. And I have no idea what they’re saying, but you know how some Spanish words, yeah, well some Spanish words actually sound like the word in English. If not spelled the same

Joel    00:19:22

I didn’t mean to get us off on a tangent or anything. I was just…

Britain    00:19:25

Oh no, you’re good and I don’t mind letting our listeners and you know, a little bit about me. Um, but yeah, I honestly feel like a lot of that anxiety and shit that I have is from suppressing some, you know, things from my childhood and also motor ticks and different things like that. But we all struggle. We all have our own things that make us, us and unique. And like you said, you just always thought that was me. Well, it always has been so right you are. Um, but now it’s no tangent. I think it’s a good therapeutic for me to talk about it. That’s definitely not something I’ve ever like lead with or even really talk about, but it’s made dude, I love it. And I embrace it and I get excited. I clap and I yell hoot and I holler when I’m nervous and fidgety, especially early in the morning, I’ll grunt. It’ll be like, like throat clears, like, you know, things like that. You know, a lot of throat clears and like you think I had allergies or something.

Joel    00:20:20

Yeah I do a lot of shit like that, but it’s not just me, me and fucking weird. And I think it’s important for us as people to understand, you know, our weird idiosyncrasies and just accept them and laugh.

Britain    00:20:34

Absolutely dude. I think it’s beautiful. It makes people unique, um, where you lack. And one thing I think you probably pick up in another and know you can definitely exploit certain things. Uh, that’s one thing that the Kybalion has taught me reading that, um, you know, for example today, um, we didn’t get to do quite what we wanted to do, but here we are still doing what we love. So there’s an ebb and flow of everything. The pendulum’s not quite swinging in our favor or in our direction, Joel, but we are making the best of that. And I guarantee you, both of us realized that that pendulum, like it’s not swinging our way, will be swinging our way. So we are kind of just waiting or riding that out and you make the best of what situation you can. And, um, like I said, certain things that I’ve read and parts of life that you kind of pick up along the way and just make you okay with things. And, this is part of it.

Joel    00:21:28

Oh yeah, I mean, it’s very similar to stoicism and that’s kind of a, I don’t really have, I don’t care how many people listen. I don’t care what the outcome of it is. It’s, it’s fun to do. It gives us an opportunity to learn more about other people. And I am dead serious on this idea of just finding random strangers to interview. Cause I think that’d be absolutely hilarious. Yeah.

Britain    00:21:50

Yeah. Um, I don’t know if we’ve even talked about that yet, but what’s going on dive into that idea a little bit since you’re that serious about it. Um, let’s go on and pencil it in and try and come up with a segment. Um, what we discussed is segment of Beard and Brain, whether it be an entire episode or a piece of an episode here and there where we contact and talk to people, random people, all over the world, um, pen pals, people in jail, prison, whatever dude, just random people we don’t know and just try and have a conversation with them, see what they’re doing, why they’re doing it and where they’ve been and where they’re going.

Joel    00:22:33

The end goal will be to reach someone inside of a ghoulag. And then, once we reach that person, we will stop the segment.

[Laughter]    00:22:40

Britain    00:22:45

That would be very interesting. I’d like, I’d love to go in and just talk to some folks, in uh, you know, and in a nursing home, somebody that may don’t, you know, may not have the family that can come in. Keep their brain active and…

Joel    00:22:59

Even if it’s super, super crazy. I want to talk to that person because I bet that will be a blast.

Britain    00:23:06

I mean, anything really, you never know some of the most-bland and like on the surface, like quiet and innocent people are probably the most-wild fucking people in the world. You know?

Joel    00:23:16

Have you seen that movie Bubba Ho-Tep? Like I want to meet those people in a nursing home. Like, one better believe he’s Elvis. Another should be like a black JFK cat and they’re overthrowing some mummy trying to suck the souls out of asses or some shit. Like I want to meet those people inside nursing homes.

Britain    00:23:36

Ah, how the fuck did I miss that movie?

Joel    00:23:40

It’s uh old Bruce Campbell movie, but it’s so great.

Britain    00:23:42

I know it how the fuck did I missed that movie. I mean 2003?

Joel    00:23:48

It’s not good, but this story in concept, is just great.

Britain    00:23:53

That’s ridiculous. Well, it being October. Uh, have you done any Halloween movies or anything like that? You plan on watching that stuff as your daughter, y’all, y’all like to do any of that.

Joel    00:24:06

So my daughter has been into it for years. Like, uh, she’s always been watching horror movies with me.

Britain    00:24:11

Oh, same.

Joel    00:24:12

Um…

Britain    00:24:13

My daughter is all into a Tim Burton

Joel    00:24:16

Over time. Like I have probably a thousand DVDs right now am a majority of them are horror movies, but for the last like two or three years, I haven’t been watching a lot of horror. I watch a lot of, uh, like documentaries and like sappy, fucking anime’ and shit.

Britain    00:24:40

Yeah. I don’t, either. I don’t watch a lot of horror movies. The only reason you’re going to see me watch a horror movie is because it’s October. And I say horror, like classic, like in a classic sense, I’m not going to watch anything gore. I’m really choosy anymore, man. And I mean, you can call it what you want, but I’m really choosy it. What I allow my eyes to see. And I, um, in 31 years man.

Joel    00:25:05

[Inaudible]

Britain    00:25:07

Yeah, in 31 years. I’m-a be real with you, man. I’ve seen enough shit to where I don’t have to watch the fucking TV to see some painful stuff, man. Um, yeah, I’m not going to go into detail man, but even here recently in the last couple of years, I’ve seen enough. I’ve been through enough. I don’t need anything like that, man. Life is a, you know, especially for some other people out there going through some hard shit, life is enough, you know, horror show, you know, some people are living the fucking American horror story. Um, but I I’m very blessed to have what I have. So I don’t choose to put stuff like that in my head, like willingly, because I know there’s people out there that are subjected to that daily and, and certain abuses and stuff. So blood and gore was cool when I was in high school, I’ve been there, done that. Um, if it’s, uh, somebody I respect or want to watch or a story I really want to see or something like that and it’s worth it, then you know, I’m going to watch it, you know, everything in a balance of course, but as above, so below man, what you watch and what you put upstairs was you’re going to feel in your heart and you’re going to, you’re going to carry that around with you day to day. And you’re up to free will of course. But I still think that that, that plays a, uh, uh, plays a role in your psyche.

Joel    00:26:17

Well, man, and I think there’s everything cyclical. I mean, you know, and so the whole like idea of a Katabasis and you know, you more hero’s journey, whatever you want to call it. So you go through different phases and then you complete the cycle of phases and then that dies off and you stop start from beginning. Like I did the horror thing for very long time because it identified with kind of what I embraced, which was like dark bullshit, I guess. And I still enjoy horror movies to fucking death. Like I just love the goofy ones like that Deathgasm and shit like that. Like you kill somebody with a dildo, we’re friends, I can dig it. But as far as like, just that phase I went through and then I went through like my warrior phase and you know, I’ve, I’ve gone through another dark phase, I guess like that, but I’m just at the point now where I don’t take things very serious. I don’t take life very serious, I just do my best every day to be the most optimal human I can. And you know, some nights we had like, its Halloween times, I’m going to watch horror movies just because it’s tradition for me. Sometimes I’ll watch out. Sometimes I’ll watch some sappy animated movie or some shit, and then other nights I’ll watch nothing. So it’s not, to me, it’s not about anything definitively, uh, it’s just, you know, you all go through different phases and you go through different things and wherever you feel in the moment is right. And that’s all that matters.

Britain    00:28:00

I agree. Um, I’m definitely trying to live more in the moment I, you know, and I have that fucking problem. I’m trying to live in the moment, the right way. I live in the moment all the time. And that’s a problem for me. I can’t remember nothing, dude. I don’t remember shit.

Joel    00:28:11

If you live in the moment how are you gonna do it the right way?

Britain    00:28:15

I don’t know, balance it out a little more because dude, I’ve been doing a little too much. I think it’s like I’m constantly live in the moment. So if you constantly in the moment, how the fuck you going to know where the hell you were, what you’re, where you are right now and where you’re going. Does that make sense? Like I’m always in the moment.

Joel    00:28:34

… and one thing over the last year I’ve gained and now it’s like, I guess the best way to describe your mindset is like, I have audacious goals for the next 10 years of my life. Right? And those are goals that no matter what, in five years I’ll be at this point in 10 years, I’ll be at this point, you know, in my mind, there’s nothing that will ever convince me otherwise, as far as those. So in the meantime, in the short term, say six months to a year, I just said kind of like parameters that, you know, would this time I should be here. And when this time I should be there and there’s little shit, but by doing that it to my angle and because of this kind of system, I don’t truly worry about, you know, where I’m at presently and where I’m going to be. It’s I just know that, you know, I’m not a fuck up in the meantime, but as long as I’m on track to meet my small kind of benchmarks and I’m good in the future. So that’s why I don’t take a lot of shit seriously.

Britain    00:29:47

Yeah. I have my set of goals, short term and long term, and I’ll allow myself enough flexibility and a room to change those goals as I see fit, um, depending on where I’m at and what I actually want, because honestly, sometimes what I want changes. So…

Joel    00:30:07

No, I hear ya. I might sure it changes probably every four days.

Britain    00:30:12

Yeah. Mine sticks a little longer than that, couple years. But then when I get tired of something or I get on something I’m really tired of it or I’m really on it.

Joel    00:30:22

No, I hear you.

Britain    00:30:24

But I’m, I’m going to go a little off topic, but kind of stay on the overall subject we’ve been on. We kind of stayed on a, an arts with music and not really music and movies. And shit liked that. And also self-help with talking about, you know, a little bit of therapy, anxiety, and my, you know, my disability or one of a few that I think I have, I know for sure I have to Tourette’s, ADHD, you know, things that I’ve actually been diagnosed with half paperwork on. And there’s a few other things that I think that I probably have a little bit of a bipolar and some things like that, but, uh, I’m having trouble lately and I’m sure that some of our listeners have had, this are going to have it or are currently having it. But, uh, with the winter coming in summer faded out falls basically in full fledge right now I’m having trouble with motivation in the gym. And I don’t really think that it’s motivation mentally. I think it’s my body physically or emotionally it’s coming somewhere else. Cause mentally I’m like, yeah, I’m ready to do it. I’ll pencil the time in. And then, you know, I just kind of relax into my day and you know, I know how to not stress myself or push myself too hard. And I kind of allow myself to fall back in this role. But I think emotionally or physically, I’m not really feeling it. And there’s some other things going on. You got any insights of what that might be or, or any ways that I can push myself to get back in the gym and start that three, four or five day routine that really sets off that, that fire to, to get healthy again. Cause I like, again, I’ve been going, I’ll wrap this up. I’ve been going and I’ve had a routine, but of just recently since the season change.

Joel    00:32:04

So my whole idea on that is man, it’s like the emotional and all that shit sucks. But ultimately that’s just you tricking yourself into not doing it. And I’m like the type of person I believe in just motivation is shit. Discipline is everything. So..

Britain    00:32:26

Just fucking go.

Joel    00:32:29

Yeah, for example, if you know, if you go for 10 minutes, man, that’s enough. You’re, you know, you do that enough times your brain to be like, all right, now that im used to comin’ in the gym. Now I’m going to put more time it. Um, and you know, and if you’re having an issue to where, if you’re, you know, doing it after work or something like that, and you’re just too tired after work or too much anxiety, too much shit going on in the head. I understand that. That’s why I can’t do it in the evenings. That’s why, you know, I wake up so early and I do it in the morning. Even if it’s for 30 minutes, I just do something to get my body active. You don’t even have to go to the gym and like do a shit. And do, you know, fifty, a hundred pushups and body weight squats and some jumping rope. And that’s enough.

Britain    00:33:11

I think a little cardio or something early in the morning, cold air, maybe get up, go to work, go run.

Joel    00:33:20

You know, I spent many, many years on learning, like how to replicate habits of high performing successful people. And that’s why I was able to do a lot that I’ve been able to do. And the number one thing that sticks with everybody is they have their kind of morning routine and they spend that first hour or two hours a day priming their body and their mind for the day. And that’s, you know, if you’re journaling and you’re meditating and doing something active, um, people go to other extreme to, you know, cold showers and shit like that. But it’s really important to, you know, the first 30 minutes of your day, try and get 25 grams protein in you and do some pushups, do some body weight squats, do some stretching, something to get your blood flow going. So then that way, you know, you’re in your absolute prime when you first wake up and you’re ready for your day.

Britain    00:34:14

Right. I agree because that was the routine I’ve always been in. I’m an early bird I get up in the morning, but, um, and I’ve even critiqued my diet. I’ve gained weight. I’ve gained muscle mass. I’m, I’m doing what I want to do as far as my goals. But what I think I have trouble with is with the season change they affect me. Season changes always have and always will affect me. I can’t really tell if they’re getting worse with my age or if they’re getting easier, but im always affected by season change. And that’s, what’s given me a hard time right now.

Joel    00:34:49

When it comes to the discipline itself, whether it be diet, whether it be going to the gym, whether it be doing anything, that’s going to improve yourself and put yourself in difficult situation to improve yourself. You have to immediately, when that emotion comes in, you give yourself five seconds, change your mindset and be like, “Nope, I may feel like that, but fuck that this needs to get done”. You know, there’s a, I forget the doctor that did that, but that whole five second rule where if you have some type of negative side or some type of negative mindset, make sure you catch yourself within those five seconds, change it and do the opposite and move forward the way you’re going to do it.

Britain    00:35:30

Five second rule. I like that. So again, the five second rule, as soon as I’m that thought. Yeah, we’ll call it that for now. We’ll even put it down in the, uh, transcript or podcast bio, if I need to, just so that, uh, listen,

Joel    00:35:47

Even explain to me further, like it’s, as far as, you know, waking up early in the morning, it’s not hitting the snooze button, you know, make it a mental kind of note, as soon as that alarm goes off, cause your sales five seconds to get up. And then he, as long as you stick to it, you’re not going to hit that fucking snooze button. You’re just going to get up and get your shit done. I’ve subscribed for years, I have to have at least three hours every morning before my work shift in order to be able to cope for at least half the fucking day. And it’s just that time. So, you know, no phone calls, no Facebook, no Instagram, no nothing. It’s just you writing, you meditating, you working out or whatever it takes for you to kind of get yourself straight for the rest of the day. Cause that’s going to be your most prime optimal state.

Britain    00:36:37

Yeah, they do call it the five second rule. “The moment you have an instinct to act on a goal, you must physically move within five seconds or your brain will stop you”. So don’t allow yourself the time to stop and fuck you up. Basically, just kind of jump in there and possibly yeah. Well, good thing. I’m always impulsive. I think the thing that you touched on that really stood out to me with this gym, that’s really going to help. There’s two things that I’m pulling out of this conversation. I’m finding very beneficial with you. But one thing I’m finding the most beneficial is the fact that you said, just go for 10 minutes. I am so hard on myself and I’m so fucking stubborn that I have to go and do this certain set routine that I’ve been doing or go and do whatever it is I need to do that day or would normally be doing that day and do it to the fullest. Like I had just always been doing it. And you’re saying, no, just ease back into it. And at least walk into the gym, pick something up and then leave, you know, was the fact that you did it and you got there maybe tomorrow you’ll do more. But the fact that you got in there, you didn’t allow yourself to fall in that I vibe with.

Joel    00:37:43

And what I do with that honestly, I fucking punished myself for those types of instances. Like say like I pay, like I had to be, I started my work around nine o’clock. Can I give me a little late? So if I don’t make it to the gym til 8:20 or 8:30, because I dropped my kid off late or something like that and no one want me, I’m a 20 minutes. A lot of times I’ll determine me away from it. So what I’ll do in those types of situations, if I know that I’ve even reduced, the time that I ideally want to work out is I’ll punish myself by doing cardio because I went from not eating and doing cardio and being ripped to now not giving a fuck and just, you know, keeping my body optimal. So what I’ll do is I don’t do cardio anymore. Anytime. I only have like, you know, 10, 15, 20 minutes to work out, I’m like, all right, you’re just going straight to the treadmill or this they’re separate or whatever, for that amount of time, if that’s what do whatever it takes, as long as you get your body moving, get your heart rate up, you’re fine.

Britain    00:38:42

I’m going to do that whenever I, uh, whenever I wake up, I’m going to make a new routine in the morning. After I do my meditation and get my water in and everything. I’m going to go for a run, get a nice cold run in, in the morning and get going because I’ve been pretty good about it. I do sometimes I’ll eat a half a dozen eggs in the morning and that’s well over 30 grams of protein or that 25 you were talking about.

Joel    00:39:10

Yeah.

Britain    00:39:10

Yeah, dude, whatever I smash, I’ll smash. Then I won’t eat the rest of the day.

Joel    00:39:16

I buy optimum nutrition whey protein with oats and it’s like 200 calories, 30 grams of carbs, 30 grams of protein. So it’s just enough to fill up your macro nutrients when you first wake up and while you’re…

Britain    00:39:33

Like is that a shake or something like I’m trying to go with substance, I’m trying to actually eat my diet and make sure I eat. Like, non-GMO pretty decent shit. Like I know it sounds so like fucking hipsterish, but like I would rather eat than eat fucking nasty food.

Joel    00:39:50

No, I understand completely. I mean, it’s honestly the better route to go. And in that instance, you know, it’s basically this, if it’s the size of your fist and protein and you’re pretty good.

Britain    00:40:00

Yeah. Yeah. See, I like to eat a lot of protein, like a high protein, high, fat diet early on in the morning and then burn that off. And then like in the evening he sent me a little bit lighter. I love salads and sandwiches, soups and shit like that. But here recently, like I didn’t need this in high school, middle school, even in my college years at any meet. And uh, and I didn’t, I don’t never ate them a lot, but now dude, now I’m crushing. Like it ain’t nothing for me to use a 16 to 20 ounce steak.

Joel    00:40:33

Yeah. I would say maybe I went vegan for a year and then I did raw for like six months.

Britain    00:40:40

Whoa…How was raw man, tell me a little bit about raw.

Joel    00:40:42

The shitty thing about eatin’ raw is you have to eat so much just to get like, cause I was in the, like the physique comp type space. So in order to hit your macros, you know, at that time I probably had a BMR, roughly 1600 calories and then cutting and everything else. So just, just use 1500 calories as an example to eat that raw is just so much, you’re talking like a salad the size of like a watermelon is 500 calories as far in, you know, you, nothing can be cooked over like 110 degrees or something like that. So it was just like during the time I was vegan and during the time I was raw, I have way more natural energy, more or less, because I was like a ketosis all the time. But at the same time, like I had to eat so much to hit my macro nutrient levels and my calories, calorie levels and whatnot. So when I finally switched back to me, like, like I’ve been essentially doing a carnivore for the last month and I have lost some weight to it and I’m still keeping my strengths and I like it, but I still eat quite a bit of vegetables.

Britain    00:42:01

Dude. I honestly don’t really eat a lot of anything. I know it sounds crazy, but my entire life, I have not really eaten much this past year. It was the only time I can remember since maybe middle school that I’ve actually gained weight. Never lost any, either a main, but I actually, I gained 16 pounds and I’m 144 pounds always been like 130 dude, like 120.

Joel    00:42:34

Yeah, I varied I went from 130 to 200 to one 150. Now I’m at like one 180, but you gotta remember to eat. Even if you don’t eat a lie, you need to, at the basic minimum is to…

Britain    00:42:49

Get my pyramid, bro. I get that. I get what I need and that’s it. I’m in and out a burn it off at the end of the day and I’m done, you know what I’m saying? I don’t get too much of anything.

Joel    00:43:01

Make sure you’re hitting your calorie level make sure your hitting your macro nutrients. And as long as you do those things.

Britain    00:43:05

And it’s surprisingly not a lot, but at the same time, it’s surprisingly more than I thought on some. And so, you know, I got to eat a lot more meat than I thought I had to, but then again, it wasn’t as hard to get, you know, the rest of your vitamins and nutrients in, and you can supplement here in there, but I never want to supplement with like protein or anything. I would rather just eat it like naturally. I don’t wanna’ fuck my digestive system up for my, you know, I don’t want to do any of that. Its fucking bug me out.

Joel    00:43:36

Hey man, that’s honestly the best route to do. I have experimented with dozens and dozens of supplements. I’ve done PAG stacks where you’re taking like 12 vitamins at a time, three or four times a day. Um, you know, I’ve done it all and you do get results from it, but you get the same thing from food. Like now I don’t even really look at my diet. I just make sure I don’t eat like shit. And I almost always hit you know my levels and what-not, and don’t really need many supplements or what-not. But if you’re trying to get to a certain point, if you’re trying to absolutely optimize how your metabolism works or optimize how much you lose fat or gain muscle or anything like that. Yeah. Supplements are amazing for that. Just make sure you’re doing it appropriately.

Britain    00:44:31

Right, and, uh, of course always talk to a professional or doctor. This is beard X brain where you’re brain and beard and theory and conversationalists, were not your fucking doctor. So this is an official, like actual medical advice. These are just kind of recommendations of where to start, what to pay attention to maybe even do your research on, but uh, always consult a doctor before changing a diet drastically. You know, it could be on medicines or something like that. You fuck.

Joel    00:45:03

We’re not doctors and we don’t play ones on the internet.

Britain    00:45:07

Nope. Just in the bedroom.

Joel    00:45:13

Well, man.

Britain    00:45:16

Anything else that you want to maybe add wrap this one up? Unfortunately we’ve kind of had a weird day, but we’ll turn it around and kind of hopefully give some content here and next week, get, uh, get her back in here again. I don’t want to give y’all too much right now because uh, it’s going to be a great episode when we get the, the bugs worked out here, but such as life, do you have anything to add Joel?

Joel    00:45:42

No man. That’s it. That’s us rambling for 45 minutes.

Britain    00:45:47

Yep. Hopefully you all got something out of that.

Joel    00:45:51

Haha, maybe.

Britain    00:45:52

No, that wasn’t what we exactly wanted to do, but you know what? We’re going to be coming back with some good shit and we appreciate her body. Yeah. We appreciate everybody listening to our podcast. Thank you for being here on Beard and Brain podcast.

Joel    00:46:07

BYE BITCHES!!!

[Outro]    00:46:09

We have before us, the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations, a new world order a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle governs the conduct of nations when we are successful. And we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United ]Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the UN.

]]> Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood! https://beardxbrain.com/beautiful-day-in-the-neighborhood/ Sun, 23 Jun 2019 21:13:19 +0000 http://beardxbrain.com/?p=195 Continue reading "Beautiful Day In The Neighborhood!"

]]> Today, I visit my wonderful backyard to discuss the habitat that I not only live in but share with undomesticated plants and animals. We will touch base on the three groups of the organism that maintain the ecosystem that is my veggie garden and the significance and characteristics of an Ant Colony.

The Habitat I live in

My vegetable garden at home is essentially a full-on ecosystem. While walking through my yard I notice the different groups of the organism that work together making this process possible.  These three groups of organisms working together within my vegetable garden are producers, consumers, and decomposers.

Producers, such as the plants in the garden, are the foundation of the ecosystem and are essential for producing the food or energy sources that the consumers need for survival.

Consumers do exactly that, they consume producers and excrete any waste left over.

Decomposers clean up after the other two. Breaking down rotten fruits, old vines, and waste excreted as byproducts from consumers are the garbage disposal of the ecosystem.

You take a look in the main bed and see tall tomato plants with Monarch Butterflies on the flowers and fungi growing in the compost around the base of the plants. As the plants grow and the animals feed and turn food into waste you can see the fungi and decomposers jumping to life during their time to shine. Each plant or animal works together keeping harmony amongst the ecosystem.

The Neighbors

The undomesticated plants in my yard such as wildflowers and zinnias, all produce their energy from sunlight by converting light into energy via photosynthesis.

The animals that frequent my yard are typically looking for food and scraps to get them a decent meal in for the day. They feed on the plants and their fruits and rely on the producers of the ecosystem.

The hummingbird scouts mark the most promising locations for the rest of the charm each year and by establishing a large plot of flowers this ensures that I naturally bring in the insects that pollinate my garden.

Stop killing Ants

When you think about something of significance, Ants, the insects, are not the first thing that comes to mind. When you mention energy, patience, and strength, a popular sports coach or an athlete comes to mind. What if I told you that we mention those three words because we are describing ant colonies.

Organization and group planning are natural traits exhibited within a colony of ants. Some argue that we literally cannot live without ants and they outnumber us by almost 2 million to 1.

Ants have been called ecosystem engineers and they perform all sorts of vital services. Without ants, our soil would suffer and wouldn’t drain as efficiently causing the chemistry of the soil to be off-balance.

They also do the work for some plants by moving their seeds to germinate and they attack and kill pests.

It’s safe to say that ants are vital to our survival.

]]> Its time to have the “GMO” talk y’all https://beardxbrain.com/its-time-to-have-the-gmo-talk-yall/ Wed, 19 Jun 2019 21:22:16 +0000 http://beardxbrain.com/?p=200 Continue reading "Its time to have the “GMO” talk y’all"

]]> Today i want to express with you how important it is to know what the fuck you are eating. I am going get in your face about GMO’s and the briefly touch on a recent breakthrough in self-replicating organisms

Do you know what you consume?

A Genetically Modified Organism (GMO) is an organism that has been genetically altered to reach a certain outcome and, although it is a multi-step technique, the process varies. There are many different organisms that are modified today including plants, animals, and microorganisms.

Around 85% of corn and 90% of canola are genetically modified. Corn, Soy, Canola, Sugar Beets, and Milk are all popular foods that are well known for GMO’s.

I always say, “Genetically modified organisms make genetically modified humans, you are what you eat”.

Public Perception and GMO’s

I personally think that most people are attracted to the idea of not consuming GMO’s but it simply isn’t that easy.

When you live in a country that is not required to label them then it’s pretty hard to not consume them. Regulations are driven by politics and that’s where it must start. In the mean-time, we are all out here consuming more than ever and we are still not sure about the health concerns.

Milk has been combined with what’s called Recombinant bovine growth hormone which is banned in the EU and other prominent countries

It is way too easy and a lot more affordable to buy these products over fresh farm-raised organic non-GMO products, thus, pushing the demand from companies to deregulate more. It last longer and looks better but has less nutrition.

If we would invest more time into teaching younger generations about growing their own crops, raising their own meats, and self-sustainability we would be far less dependent on genetically manufacture organisms in the future.

That self-replication thing

The surge in technology over that past 20 years has paved way for new biotechnical advancements including the creation of the first synthetic organisms. Ethically, some may view this as a reach or overstep as biologists play God but I do not see it like this. Any advancement in modern medicine benefits the masses so this new technology should be talked about on a larger stage where it can grab more attention. A self-replicating synthetic organism can show us how to manipulate the number of codons used to alter the way viruses inject DNA into cells. The virus relies on information from the host cell to make a copy of that DNA and if you can alter the organism with fewer codons it could help prevent the sharing of information.

My goal was to open your eyes to what you are consuming. This conversation needs to happen on a higher platform and the spread of knowledge on how to produce your own food needs to go viral

References mentioned in this blog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/diet-and-nutrition_b_4323937?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS91cmw_c2E9dCZyY3Q9aiZxPSZlc3JjPXMmc291cmNlPXdlYiZjZD0yJnZlZD0yYWhVS0V3aUQtWlBvN1BfaUFoV3ZUTjhLSGRjYUJVRVFGakFCZWdRSURCQUkmdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGd3d3Lmh1ZmZwb3N0LmNvbSUyRmVudHJ5JTJGZGlldC1hbmQtbnV0cml0aW9uX2JfNDMyMzkzNyZ1c2c9QU92VmF3Mk1WT2l3cE1rSEd5bC11SXM3dEdSVQ&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAF06RyLPE7xARYVTzU54BME1_3mB1peVY6d9O_zUHuKYqdeFQCmhe_Gc92H0VMAAhSLbd-H1el0QiCpq0unRDt1_6C_sIdHh3iJUv2aJfhQHVTW-ZYb5T7ksltMgyDrw9s1BQemsAlPESlS83KlGltAKtP3Ssb9-xWuzs2nTOlux

http://sites.middlebury.edu/politicalecologyofgmos/project/public-opinion-of-genetically-modified-organisms/

https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/world-s-first-synthetic-organism-with-fully-recoded-dna-is-created-at-lmb-in-cambridge-9071983/

]]> Marketing Is Evil https://beardxbrain.com/hello-world/ https://beardxbrain.com/hello-world/#comments Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:34:25 +0000 http://beardxbrain.com//?p=1 Continue reading "Marketing Is Evil"

]]> Aha! If you are reading this then either the clickbait worked or you’re genuinely curious as to what in the heck I am talking about.

My business partner and I often have discussions as to how academia prepares young marketers to be CMO’s, but often offers limited resources to provide lessons applicable to entry-level marketing jobs.

Hell, I have accumulated five degrees thus far and still learned more about marketing from blogs and YouTube then I ever did in academia.

This is not to suggest that academia is worthless to young marketers, I personally feel that university is an endurance contest and enables one to learn discipline and the fundamentals of marketing and life in general.

Though I have always been surprised that the academic approach to marketing courses never once mentions the history of how modern marketing came about, or its godfather Edward Bernays.

From my experiences, I learned everything from consumer dynamics to the four “p’s” (or six “p’s” if you consider Dr. Bakamitsos lexicon). So I decided to write this origins story as a resource for my fellow young marketers to learn how marketing “became a thing”.


I.
When I first entered academia, I accepted the mantra “learn marketing and sociology” from the YouTube gurus and delved deep into books and documentaries. Of course, when reading about psychology you learn about Sigmund Freud, Joseph Campbell, and if you’re lucky Edward Bernays.

Bernays is essentially the godfather of marketing and created the first public relations (PR) firm. He had been interested in propaganda prior to and during World War II and its effect on the people.

Of course, by this time propaganda had a negative correlation, therefore he dawned the term PR.

The “engineering of consent” preaching the second nephew of Sigmund Freud believed that for a government to lead effectively, it must essentially conquer the hearts and minds of its citizens without them even knowing about it.

Bernays’s book, Propaganda, which was published in the 1920s inspired the likes of Joseph Goebbels (yes, that Goebbels). Although Bernays was a Jew, Goebbels adapted the ideas of Bernays’s writings into his campaigns while he was the Minister of Propaganda.

Bernays later found out about this in 1933 and stated:

“They were using my books as the basis for a destructive campaign against
the Jews of Germany. This shocked me, but I knew any human activity can
be used for social purposes or misused for antisocial ones.”

This ultimately led Supreme Court Justice Frankfurter to disallow Bernays to participate in WWII. Frankfurter asserted that Bernays and his colleagues were “Professional prisoners of public minds.”

While this may sound horrid, and serve as a subjective view, in many respects Bernays propaganda/PR is an early form of branding.

II.
Bernays’s observations of the public led to many publicity experiments that are simply ingenious. In 1929, during an Easter parade, he gathered a group of attractive and fashionable women to display their “torches of freedom” (cigarettes) to the masses.

He even worked with big American Tobacco and promoted Lucky Strike cigarettes as soothing to the throat and able to slim waistlines.

Fun Fact: Bernays would go absolutely mad if he caught his own wife smoking cigarettes.

Maybe he was aware of the health implications even then.

The “Father of Public Relations” is also known for helping to establish what is now the focus group.

Through his experiments, he learned how to appeal to the deepest desires of consumers.

In addition to torches of freedom, Bernays promoted to the public that Dixie Cups were more sanitary than conventional glasses.

If that does not add enough salt to the wounds of marketing, Bernays also persuaded 5,000 physicians to sign a document asserting that a heavy breakfast of bacon and eggs was healthier than a light breakfast.

The master of spin might as well have been labeled the master of cholesterol and blood clots.

III.
This article does not mean to suggest that marketing is evil or distasteful, rather an entertaining opinion piece on marketing techniques.

Bernays also created the National Soap Sculpture Competition that lasted 25 years. This was to differentiate the Ivory Soap brand and persuade children to be more receptive to soap and bathing.

Edwards Bernays was brilliant until the day he died in 1995 at the age of 103. His expertise inspired many and he would offer his consultation to political campaigns up until the Clintons at a $1000 per hour fee.

This article barely scratches the surface of Bernays contributions to public relations and marketing.

If you have yet to see the series Century of Self by Adam Curtis, I invite you to take a gander.

You can also find Bernays works on Amazon and read a handful of other blogs that demonstrated his contributions.

Ultimately we are not here to assert that marketing is bad. Though we will agree with Gary Vaynerchuck that “marketing ruins everything”.

With corporate social responsibility (CSR) becoming more prominent
in today’s business culture, more and more marketers are using their platform to contribute more effectively to social causes.

Outbound marketing will never die, the banner ads and direct mail may never end. Though inbound marketing has become an incredibly successful approach to enhancing brand equity.

Storytelling and giving more value to consumers than we receive has helped many businesses thrive.

Shameless Plug/Internal link ��: Marketing 4 Warriors uses the lessons of the last hundred years of marketing and uses it to drive our mission to provide marketing services while simultaneously contributing to survivors of human trafficking. See, marketing is not evil!

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